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		<title>By: Nasreddeen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nasreddeen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My real name wrote:

&quot;What&#039;s the point in having a blog but never publishing or responding to the comments?&quot;

You have the answer right under your eyes! ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My real name wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s the point in having a blog but never publishing or responding to the comments?&#8221;</p>
<p>You have the answer right under your eyes! <img src="http://www.alanhart.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nasreddeen</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/911-open-letter-challenge-to-adl%e2%80%99s-abe-foxman/comment-page-1/#comment-21918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nasreddeen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;My realname&quot; wrote:

&quot;... It isn&#039;t about religion, because Islamic states exist - nations which declare themselves Islamic, and Arab even....&quot;

There is no one islamic state nowadays. No one! And surely not the oligarchic state of Saudi Arabia backed by USA and Israel.

There is a huge difference between Islam and Zionism. The rules and values of Islam are open to every human being. Being muslim or not! This is not the case of Talmudism, the religion of zionists. One can not be a jewish if the mother is not jewish. This is the essence of genetic racism: the talmudists believe that the prophethood lies in the genes. That was the reason why they rejected Jesus son of Mary as the Messiah (Peace be upon him and her): she claimed the baby had no father so the talmudists couldn&#039;t trace back the genetic ascendance of Jesus. Almost the same case happend some years before with John The Baptist: they couldn&#039;t trust his elderly parents. And so .. and so ...

To be arab is sollely a matter of speaking arabic. No more no less. In North Africa, people are all berbers physically and culturally different from &quot;arabs&quot; but they still claim to be &quot;arabs&quot; because they speak arabic and proud to be muslim and linked with the great islamic culture and civilisation.

As for Israel: we can&#039;t be an israeli if we are not from jewish descent. The zionist state is based on racism. QED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My realname&#8221; wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; It isn&#8217;t about religion, because Islamic states exist &#8211; nations which declare themselves Islamic, and Arab even&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no one islamic state nowadays. No one! And surely not the oligarchic state of Saudi Arabia backed by USA and Israel.</p>
<p>There is a huge difference between Islam and Zionism. The rules and values of Islam are open to every human being. Being muslim or not! This is not the case of Talmudism, the religion of zionists. One can not be a jewish if the mother is not jewish. This is the essence of genetic racism: the talmudists believe that the prophethood lies in the genes. That was the reason why they rejected Jesus son of Mary as the Messiah (Peace be upon him and her): she claimed the baby had no father so the talmudists couldn&#8217;t trace back the genetic ascendance of Jesus. Almost the same case happend some years before with John The Baptist: they couldn&#8217;t trust his elderly parents. And so .. and so &#8230;</p>
<p>To be arab is sollely a matter of speaking arabic. No more no less. In North Africa, people are all berbers physically and culturally different from &#8220;arabs&#8221; but they still claim to be &#8220;arabs&#8221; because they speak arabic and proud to be muslim and linked with the great islamic culture and civilisation.</p>
<p>As for Israel: we can&#8217;t be an israeli if we are not from jewish descent. The zionist state is based on racism. QED.</p>
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		<title>By: My real name</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/911-open-letter-challenge-to-adl%e2%80%99s-abe-foxman/comment-page-1/#comment-21519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My real name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Tom, you are saying if conditions existed such that there was no need of Jewish self-determination, then you would support self-determination.

You&#039;re saying if the conditions brought about by self-determination already existed, then you would support self-determination.....tautology.

And one could direct your argument at other historical examples, such as USA.  Why support America&#039;s existence then?  Because it was &quot;a long time ago&quot;?  Is that really good enough?  

You&#039;re also ignoring UN resolutions founding Israel and supposing that Israel was formerly &quot;owned&quot; by someone else.  And I guess you don&#039;t mean the British.   In fact there are conditions that better distinguish Israel as legitimate than the USA.  So why isn&#039;t the argument about the USA rather than Israel aka Zionism aka jewish self-determination?

Anyway, the writer says he is &quot;passionately anti-Zionist&quot;.   That means being passionately anti-Jewish self-determination.  

Which other nation&#039;s self-determination does the writer oppose?  None, only Jews......so pardon me, but there&#039;s really only one thing to call that imo.....anti-semitism.  What else can it be?

It isn&#039;t about religion, because Islamic states exist - nations which declare themselves Islamic, and Arab even. Is the writer protesting that too?  No.  So....what&#039;s the beef?  The beef is that the writer opposes Jewish self-determination and nobody else&#039;s.  That&#039;s objective anti-semitism......taking a stand against Jews pursuing the same things which when pursued by other people raises no objection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Tom, you are saying if conditions existed such that there was no need of Jewish self-determination, then you would support self-determination.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re saying if the conditions brought about by self-determination already existed, then you would support self-determination&#8230;..tautology.</p>
<p>And one could direct your argument at other historical examples, such as USA.  Why support America&#8217;s existence then?  Because it was &#8220;a long time ago&#8221;?  Is that really good enough?  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re also ignoring UN resolutions founding Israel and supposing that Israel was formerly &#8220;owned&#8221; by someone else.  And I guess you don&#8217;t mean the British.   In fact there are conditions that better distinguish Israel as legitimate than the USA.  So why isn&#8217;t the argument about the USA rather than Israel aka Zionism aka jewish self-determination?</p>
<p>Anyway, the writer says he is &#8220;passionately anti-Zionist&#8221;.   That means being passionately anti-Jewish self-determination.  </p>
<p>Which other nation&#8217;s self-determination does the writer oppose?  None, only Jews&#8230;&#8230;so pardon me, but there&#8217;s really only one thing to call that imo&#8230;..anti-semitism.  What else can it be?</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t about religion, because Islamic states exist &#8211; nations which declare themselves Islamic, and Arab even. Is the writer protesting that too?  No.  So&#8230;.what&#8217;s the beef?  The beef is that the writer opposes Jewish self-determination and nobody else&#8217;s.  That&#8217;s objective anti-semitism&#8230;&#8230;taking a stand against Jews pursuing the same things which when pursued by other people raises no objection.</p>
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		<title>By: My real name</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My real name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 22:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s the point in having a blog but never publishing or responding to the comments?

What a waste of time.    One-way isn&#039;t dialogue.   But you know that, and that&#039;s the point, isn&#039;t it?  Pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the point in having a blog but never publishing or responding to the comments?</p>
<p>What a waste of time.    One-way isn&#8217;t dialogue.   But you know that, and that&#8217;s the point, isn&#8217;t it?  Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Mysiewicz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Mysiewicz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;My real name&quot; points out the importance of &quot;Jewish self determination&quot;.  I, too, support this goal for Jews who want it.  However, this should be done on land these Jews legally own (i.e., not land stolen from the inhabitants) and with money they earned lawfully (i.e., not mine).  These are the problem I have with the current Israeli state--a real Zionist (like Uri Avnery) should see that the current military-political situation thoroughly clouds the experiment of producing Jews who are independent and self sufficient in their own state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My real name&#8221; points out the importance of &#8220;Jewish self determination&#8221;.  I, too, support this goal for Jews who want it.  However, this should be done on land these Jews legally own (i.e., not land stolen from the inhabitants) and with money they earned lawfully (i.e., not mine).  These are the problem I have with the current Israeli state&#8211;a real Zionist (like Uri Avnery) should see that the current military-political situation thoroughly clouds the experiment of producing Jews who are independent and self sufficient in their own state.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Douglas Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/911-open-letter-challenge-to-adl%e2%80%99s-abe-foxman/comment-page-1/#comment-21450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Douglas Kennedy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings Alan Hart: regarding your thought&#039;s on Mr. Abe Foxman. And how he could be a positive force,  &quot;What these two peoples could do together in peace and partnership is the stuff that dreams are made of.&quot; I also state  Below how he could be a positive help in returning our national FIVE Pointed Star to the seats in the US. House of Representatives . 
Be well Safe Travels  Ron     PS. a bratwurst, mustard &amp; flip top sounds great--- Army 3 Armored Division---Fulda Gap 1962 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/08/pro-israeli-group-calls-pro-american-veterans-group-extremists/comment-page-1/#comment-320068
The ADL, a non-government  Zionist agent organization embedded in the USA posing as a philanthropic group, calls Veterans Today out as Extremists
Veterans Today responds and calls ADL a “threat to U.S. citizenry everywhere”

by Debbie Menon



Ronald Douglas Kennedy 
September 9, 2011 - 12:06 pm 
Will Abe Foxman an American Help restore the United States National Five Pointed Star’s to the sides of each seat in our House wear our Congress Men and Ladies meet to work for the betterment of American’s, With His Anti- Defamation League. How was our National Five Pointed Star Defamed in 1949, and replaced with a Foreign Six Pointed Star With out a Vote or fight, of its surrender to Foreign Lobbyists?

Forwarded Message:
Subj: RE: Six Pointed Star on Sides of Seats. Request for information [ohps]
Date: 9/6/2006 1:30:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: Felicia.Wivchar@mail.house.gov
To: Otrkennedy@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Dear Mr. Kennedy,

Thank you for contacting the Office of the Clerk.

There are unfortunately no published images that show a detail of the stars at the joints of the seats in the current House Chamber, on the internet or in print. 

The current style of furniture was installed in 1949, and was manufactured by a New York furniture company called Knip, which is no longer in business. There are drawings for both five and six -pointed brass stars associated with the design of the furniture, but there is no documentation explaining or mentioning the use of the six-pointed version. 

Office of the Clerk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Alan Hart: regarding your thought&#8217;s on Mr. Abe Foxman. And how he could be a positive force,  &#8220;What these two peoples could do together in peace and partnership is the stuff that dreams are made of.&#8221; I also state  Below how he could be a positive help in returning our national FIVE Pointed Star to the seats in the US. House of Representatives .<br />
Be well Safe Travels  Ron     PS. a bratwurst, mustard &amp; flip top sounds great&#8212; Army 3 Armored Division&#8212;Fulda Gap 1962 </p>
<p><a href="http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/08/pro-israeli-group-calls-pro-american-veterans-group-extremists/comment-page-1/#comment-320068" rel="nofollow">http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/08/pro-israeli-group-calls-pro-american-veterans-group-extremists/comment-page-1/#comment-320068</a><br />
The ADL, a non-government  Zionist agent organization embedded in the USA posing as a philanthropic group, calls Veterans Today out as Extremists<br />
Veterans Today responds and calls ADL a “threat to U.S. citizenry everywhere”</p>
<p>by Debbie Menon</p>
<p>Ronald Douglas Kennedy<br />
September 9, 2011 &#8211; 12:06 pm<br />
Will Abe Foxman an American Help restore the United States National Five Pointed Star’s to the sides of each seat in our House wear our Congress Men and Ladies meet to work for the betterment of American’s, With His Anti- Defamation League. How was our National Five Pointed Star Defamed in 1949, and replaced with a Foreign Six Pointed Star With out a Vote or fight, of its surrender to Foreign Lobbyists?</p>
<p>Forwarded Message:<br />
Subj: RE: Six Pointed Star on Sides of Seats. Request for information [ohps]<br />
Date: 9/6/2006 1:30:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time<br />
From: <a href="mailto:Felicia.Wivchar@mail.house.gov">Felicia.Wivchar@mail.house.gov</a><br />
To: <a href="mailto:Otrkennedy@aol.com">Otrkennedy@aol.com</a><br />
Sent from the Internet (Details)</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Kennedy,</p>
<p>Thank you for contacting the Office of the Clerk.</p>
<p>There are unfortunately no published images that show a detail of the stars at the joints of the seats in the current House Chamber, on the internet or in print. </p>
<p>The current style of furniture was installed in 1949, and was manufactured by a New York furniture company called Knip, which is no longer in business. There are drawings for both five and six -pointed brass stars associated with the design of the furniture, but there is no documentation explaining or mentioning the use of the six-pointed version. </p>
<p>Office of the Clerk</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for having the courage to speak the truth. You are my beacon of sincerety in this sea of deceit and conflicting information. Your standing is such that your words can persuade even those who believe the intentions of our rulers too malicious to be conceivable from their fellow man - a serene naivety we regrettably cannot afford in these times. May peace be with you and your words resound around the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for having the courage to speak the truth. You are my beacon of sincerety in this sea of deceit and conflicting information. Your standing is such that your words can persuade even those who believe the intentions of our rulers too malicious to be conceivable from their fellow man &#8211; a serene naivety we regrettably cannot afford in these times. May peace be with you and your words resound around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: My real name</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/911-open-letter-challenge-to-adl%e2%80%99s-abe-foxman/comment-page-1/#comment-21424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My real name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No replies, no responses.

What an empty shallow pointless blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No replies, no responses.</p>
<p>What an empty shallow pointless blog.</p>
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		<title>By: My real name</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My real name]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what&#039;s the point in offering comments when 

1) you don&#039;t personally respond
2) you don&#039;t publish them

Pathetic.  Forget it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the point in offering comments when </p>
<p>1) you don&#8217;t personally respond<br />
2) you don&#8217;t publish them</p>
<p>Pathetic.  Forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Mysiewicz</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/911-open-letter-challenge-to-adl%e2%80%99s-abe-foxman/comment-page-1/#comment-21392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Mysiewicz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The official 9-11 story has too many holes in it.  Like Cinderella, the foot of the Mosssad seems to fit into the slipper.  Israel certainly benefitted from the event.  We have the impossible collapse of three steel-frame buildings--one not even hit or burned.  (Perhaps the last-minute cruise missile strike on the Pentagon was cooked up to account for the plane shot down in Pennsylvania probably originally destined for WTC-7.)  We have the loss of 80% of the buildings mass as fine dust below 10 microns--characteristuic of demolition.  We have plane crashes and small fires--possibly synchronized to mask smoke from thermite charges used to soften structural steel main beams over a 20 minute period. We have the impossibility of conventional demolition charges because 10,000 or more would have been necessary.  No, Virginia, spontaneous collapse buildings don&#039;t neatly collapse into their footprint.  Certainly not three times in a row!  (My late dad, an assistant to an NYPD deputy chief inspector once told me--based on the best engineering information--their fear was that if one of the structures did fall it would break off and cause a domino-effect collapse of skyscrapers in lower Manhattan.)   High levels of tritium were detected by the National Bureau of Standards (attributed to red-dot Federal gunsights on the premises!  Ha, ha.)  And, no metal was released even for commemorative medals.  Why?  As someone once considered knowledgeable on radiation processing of materials, I can tell you that all steel of terrestrial origin (except steel from nuclear reactors, steel exposed to nuclear blasts, or steel that has been in outer space for an extended period) has a characteristic isotope signature that does not change over tens of thousands of years.  Meteorites, for instance, can be tested to show extraterresterial origins.  Were so-called mini nukes used?  I can&#039;t think of another reason we didn&#039;t have a 1000-foot-high pile of debris from a simple collapse!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official 9-11 story has too many holes in it.  Like Cinderella, the foot of the Mosssad seems to fit into the slipper.  Israel certainly benefitted from the event.  We have the impossible collapse of three steel-frame buildings&#8211;one not even hit or burned.  (Perhaps the last-minute cruise missile strike on the Pentagon was cooked up to account for the plane shot down in Pennsylvania probably originally destined for WTC-7.)  We have the loss of 80% of the buildings mass as fine dust below 10 microns&#8211;characteristuic of demolition.  We have plane crashes and small fires&#8211;possibly synchronized to mask smoke from thermite charges used to soften structural steel main beams over a 20 minute period. We have the impossibility of conventional demolition charges because 10,000 or more would have been necessary.  No, Virginia, spontaneous collapse buildings don&#8217;t neatly collapse into their footprint.  Certainly not three times in a row!  (My late dad, an assistant to an NYPD deputy chief inspector once told me&#8211;based on the best engineering information&#8211;their fear was that if one of the structures did fall it would break off and cause a domino-effect collapse of skyscrapers in lower Manhattan.)   High levels of tritium were detected by the National Bureau of Standards (attributed to red-dot Federal gunsights on the premises!  Ha, ha.)  And, no metal was released even for commemorative medals.  Why?  As someone once considered knowledgeable on radiation processing of materials, I can tell you that all steel of terrestrial origin (except steel from nuclear reactors, steel exposed to nuclear blasts, or steel that has been in outer space for an extended period) has a characteristic isotope signature that does not change over tens of thousands of years.  Meteorites, for instance, can be tested to show extraterresterial origins.  Were so-called mini nukes used?  I can&#8217;t think of another reason we didn&#8217;t have a 1000-foot-high pile of debris from a simple collapse!</p>
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