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		<title>By: Deadra Delauter</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a fact that most of the planet&#039;s news provision is controlled by right wing moguls. Their aim is to spread the virus of capitalism and increase the planet&#039;s gap between wealthy and those in need. Left Insider provides left wing news from reputable news sites like Left Futures, Red Pepper, Novara, The Canary, Buzz Feed, Left Foot Forward etc. We all own the right to maximise our own qualities and we all have the obligation to help others achieve theirs.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Roger Tucker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jere&#039; Fetter said... “The idea of one state with equal rights for all is a &quot;pipe dream&quot;. The Israelis would never go for it.” That argument has become a familiar meme, but it holds as much water as ‘homosexuals will never be allowed to marry because the much more powerful and numerous heteros will never allow it,’ or ‘the underdog can’t win because the favorite won’t let them.’ 

There will be one state, no matter what anyone thinks. It may be, temporarily, a Jewish State stretching from the river to the sea – the endgame that the Israelis have been working on from the beginning, but such a state would collapse quickly because of the blowback from the rest of the world, particularly the muslim world – even the Saudis and the Emirates wouldn’t dare to interfere. A Palestinian state is inevitable, perhaps in combination with Jordan – history is heavily weighted in its favor. What sort of Palestinian state is anybody’s guess. My preference would be for an Algerian style solution – otherwise it would likely end up looking like contemporary South Africa.

What few people acknowledge is that Israel was doomed from the beginning – designed like an airplane whose creators simply ignored aerodynamics. It is probably the stupidest thing ever attempted by us supposedly smart Jews. In the meantime, though, they are still capable of inflicting even far greater harm than up till now, even to the point of threatening the destruction of much of the world if they don’t get their way – they are, after all, arguably criminally insane.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jere&#8217; Fetter said&#8230; “The idea of one state with equal rights for all is a &#8220;pipe dream&#8221;. The Israelis would never go for it.” That argument has become a familiar meme, but it holds as much water as ‘homosexuals will never be allowed to marry because the much more powerful and numerous heteros will never allow it,’ or ‘the underdog can’t win because the favorite won’t let them.’ </p>
<p>There will be one state, no matter what anyone thinks. It may be, temporarily, a Jewish State stretching from the river to the sea – the endgame that the Israelis have been working on from the beginning, but such a state would collapse quickly because of the blowback from the rest of the world, particularly the muslim world – even the Saudis and the Emirates wouldn’t dare to interfere. A Palestinian state is inevitable, perhaps in combination with Jordan – history is heavily weighted in its favor. What sort of Palestinian state is anybody’s guess. My preference would be for an Algerian style solution – otherwise it would likely end up looking like contemporary South Africa.</p>
<p>What few people acknowledge is that Israel was doomed from the beginning – designed like an airplane whose creators simply ignored aerodynamics. It is probably the stupidest thing ever attempted by us supposedly smart Jews. In the meantime, though, they are still capable of inflicting even far greater harm than up till now, even to the point of threatening the destruction of much of the world if they don’t get their way – they are, after all, arguably criminally insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Jere' Fetter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 04:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea of one state with equal rights for all is a &quot;pipe dream&quot;.
The Israelis would never go for it.  The only way, as I see it, to
solve the conflict is for the Palestinians with the sanction of the U.N, to declare the West Bank (as per the 1967 borders)the
Country of Palestine.  They would have to protection of the U.N. Peace Keeping Forces.  ALL the Jewish people in the settlements would have 1 year to either relocate back into Israel or to stay
and become citizens of Palestine with full rights.  All the WALLS
would be demolished and ,of course, the Israeli Army move back t
Israel. Just think how this would be hailed around the world!!  Ther would PEACE and the apartheid would end andd the Palestinians would have their own country to work on.
   THINK ABOUT IT !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of one state with equal rights for all is a &#8220;pipe dream&#8221;.<br />
The Israelis would never go for it.  The only way, as I see it, to<br />
solve the conflict is for the Palestinians with the sanction of the U.N, to declare the West Bank (as per the 1967 borders)the<br />
Country of Palestine.  They would have to protection of the U.N. Peace Keeping Forces.  ALL the Jewish people in the settlements would have 1 year to either relocate back into Israel or to stay<br />
and become citizens of Palestine with full rights.  All the WALLS<br />
would be demolished and ,of course, the Israeli Army move back t<br />
Israel. Just think how this would be hailed around the world!!  Ther would PEACE and the apartheid would end andd the Palestinians would have their own country to work on.<br />
   THINK ABOUT IT !!!</p>
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		<title>By: David King</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Graham Griffiths

Graham; don&#039;t fear.  The articles you have read where written by a zionist hand, with the express desire to discourage you.  The situation is indeed much different.

zion is fighting battles at the moment with all of it&#039;s cunning and all of it&#039;s strength.  It is fighting battles with the knowledge that they have lost the war.  I personally believe that we will see the end of ersats israel in a decade.  

Gene posting above, is correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Graham Griffiths</p>
<p>Graham; don&#8217;t fear.  The articles you have read where written by a zionist hand, with the express desire to discourage you.  The situation is indeed much different.</p>
<p>zion is fighting battles at the moment with all of it&#8217;s cunning and all of it&#8217;s strength.  It is fighting battles with the knowledge that they have lost the war.  I personally believe that we will see the end of ersats israel in a decade.  </p>
<p>Gene posting above, is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[International court? Do you really believe that Israel and its bitch the U.S. really give a shit about what the international court says. The U.S. was convicted by the world court of war crimes during Viet Nam but that didnt stop us from continuing that war. I do not see Palestine ever getting its own state since Israel is against it and they rule the world. And Mr. Tariq, I agree with you 100% that no American President will ever have the balls to stand up to that little pissant of a country,Israel. As far as the peoples vote,I do not believe Presidents are elected but selected by those in financial power. Who ever bows the deepest and grovels before Israel gets elected. Has any one ever noticed how every politgian of any note is always photographed praying at the wailing wall. Bush,Obama.Kerry, McCain etc. They got this pious look on their face but they are probably thinking,what the fuck am I doing with my face pressed against some booger stained wall,and I wonder how much money will I get for this. You say one state with equal rights for all, The black man was given that in 1865 and he was still being strung up in the 1960,s for things like whistling at a white woman. It aint gonna happen, the Palestinians will always be second class citizens.and the U.S. will bow its head and say nothing. Jewish interests control the worlds economy And to be perfctly crude.Life is like a shit sandwich, The more bread you have the less shit you have to eat. thus ends the word of todays Holy Gospel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>International court? Do you really believe that Israel and its bitch the U.S. really give a shit about what the international court says. The U.S. was convicted by the world court of war crimes during Viet Nam but that didnt stop us from continuing that war. I do not see Palestine ever getting its own state since Israel is against it and they rule the world. And Mr. Tariq, I agree with you 100% that no American President will ever have the balls to stand up to that little pissant of a country,Israel. As far as the peoples vote,I do not believe Presidents are elected but selected by those in financial power. Who ever bows the deepest and grovels before Israel gets elected. Has any one ever noticed how every politgian of any note is always photographed praying at the wailing wall. Bush,Obama.Kerry, McCain etc. They got this pious look on their face but they are probably thinking,what the fuck am I doing with my face pressed against some booger stained wall,and I wonder how much money will I get for this. You say one state with equal rights for all, The black man was given that in 1865 and he was still being strung up in the 1960,s for things like whistling at a white woman. It aint gonna happen, the Palestinians will always be second class citizens.and the U.S. will bow its head and say nothing. Jewish interests control the worlds economy And to be perfctly crude.Life is like a shit sandwich, The more bread you have the less shit you have to eat. thus ends the word of todays Holy Gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Graham Griffiths:

You are wrong, sir.  The ONLY solution is one state, whether voluntarily agreed upon by the Zionists, or else forced on them by demographics.  Israel cannot continue murdering Palestinians forever.  One day the world will wake up and put an end to this.  Though I imagine the US empire will have to collapse first, because Israel is an integral part of that empire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Graham Griffiths:</p>
<p>You are wrong, sir.  The ONLY solution is one state, whether voluntarily agreed upon by the Zionists, or else forced on them by demographics.  Israel cannot continue murdering Palestinians forever.  One day the world will wake up and put an end to this.  Though I imagine the US empire will have to collapse first, because Israel is an integral part of that empire.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham Griffiths]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 21:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just for a minute, Alan, I let myself be taken in by this scenario, and the feeling I have now is just like the depression you get when you wake up from a lovely deam and realise that it is just that! 

In fact, depression is the only reaction I experience now when I consider this situation. For a while I&#039;d come to a conclusion that a one state solution was the only hope for the Palestinians, but several articles in various periodicals and newspapers have made it clear that this will never be an option.

And the two state solution too has been made less and less likely by the subtle encroachment of the Zionist colonists. You only have to look at a map of the West Bank to see how Israel has carved up so much Palestinian territory. It resembles a scan of a body racked with advanced cancer.

So my view is one of despair. Even if somehow Israel can be prevailed upon to accept the two state solution, their brutal occupation of the Palestinians and what Norman Finkelstein refers to as &#039;state terrorism&#039; to which it has subjected the Gazans espeoially in the last two years, all these factors must be rementing a terrible hatred which will take ages to fade even if peace can be achieved.

Somebody please show me I&#039;m wrong. I dearly want to be!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for a minute, Alan, I let myself be taken in by this scenario, and the feeling I have now is just like the depression you get when you wake up from a lovely deam and realise that it is just that! </p>
<p>In fact, depression is the only reaction I experience now when I consider this situation. For a while I&#8217;d come to a conclusion that a one state solution was the only hope for the Palestinians, but several articles in various periodicals and newspapers have made it clear that this will never be an option.</p>
<p>And the two state solution too has been made less and less likely by the subtle encroachment of the Zionist colonists. You only have to look at a map of the West Bank to see how Israel has carved up so much Palestinian territory. It resembles a scan of a body racked with advanced cancer.</p>
<p>So my view is one of despair. Even if somehow Israel can be prevailed upon to accept the two state solution, their brutal occupation of the Palestinians and what Norman Finkelstein refers to as &#8216;state terrorism&#8217; to which it has subjected the Gazans espeoially in the last two years, all these factors must be rementing a terrible hatred which will take ages to fade even if peace can be achieved.</p>
<p>Somebody please show me I&#8217;m wrong. I dearly want to be!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 03:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan does give some interesting future possibilities certainly based on the past behaviour of Israel and that of the Jews in both &quot;Greater Israel&quot; and of those that support the Colonial Enterprise in the USA and elsewhere. An awakening amongst them that they are being used: That they are making their own position in the world untenable serving the interests of a few masters possibly in banking and finance who promote and provoke war for profit.
Perhaps the Pork Barrel pocicy manipulators have sealed Israel&#039;s fate by in effect bankrupting the United States? We shall see.  
The One State Solution is the one that would bring lasting peace security and safety to the region but is an undesireable one to the profiteers of the Military Industrial Complex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan does give some interesting future possibilities certainly based on the past behaviour of Israel and that of the Jews in both &#8220;Greater Israel&#8221; and of those that support the Colonial Enterprise in the USA and elsewhere. An awakening amongst them that they are being used: That they are making their own position in the world untenable serving the interests of a few masters possibly in banking and finance who promote and provoke war for profit.<br />
Perhaps the Pork Barrel pocicy manipulators have sealed Israel&#8217;s fate by in effect bankrupting the United States? We shall see.<br />
The One State Solution is the one that would bring lasting peace security and safety to the region but is an undesireable one to the profiteers of the Military Industrial Complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Christof Lehmann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christof Lehmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Alan Hart.
Actually you are making many brilliant points in this article and I woould not expect anything less from you. You are however, implicitly giving Barak Obama the credit of doubt that he actually cares for the Palestinian people. Meanwhile, his policy and the policy in Israel, Qatar and Egypt which he is supporting, is racing to what could best be described as the &quot;Endlösung&quot;. A final Solution. The establishment of a free trade zone in the Sinai, an Egyptian - Muslim Brotherhood - controlled, Hamas led Palestinian state in Gaza; the permanent annexation of the greatest part of the West Bank and Palestinian micro enclaves which are controlled by a Jordanian government - a soon to be Muslim Brotherhood controlled Jordanian government. Let alone the planned annexation of the Syrian Golan. I would not give Obama the credit of doubt. Thank you for a great article though. As always, very much appreciated. I wish you a happy, healthy and hopefully more peaceful 2013.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Alan Hart.<br />
Actually you are making many brilliant points in this article and I woould not expect anything less from you. You are however, implicitly giving Barak Obama the credit of doubt that he actually cares for the Palestinian people. Meanwhile, his policy and the policy in Israel, Qatar and Egypt which he is supporting, is racing to what could best be described as the &#8220;Endlösung&#8221;. A final Solution. The establishment of a free trade zone in the Sinai, an Egyptian &#8211; Muslim Brotherhood &#8211; controlled, Hamas led Palestinian state in Gaza; the permanent annexation of the greatest part of the West Bank and Palestinian micro enclaves which are controlled by a Jordanian government &#8211; a soon to be Muslim Brotherhood controlled Jordanian government. Let alone the planned annexation of the Syrian Golan. I would not give Obama the credit of doubt. Thank you for a great article though. As always, very much appreciated. I wish you a happy, healthy and hopefully more peaceful 2013.</p>
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		<title>By: jarjees tariq</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lets get sumthing straight here. NO AMERICAN PRESIDENT can and ever will have the balls to stand up to the Zionist lobby and demand to stop this nonesense. they are all puppets in their hands and they dance to their tunes and will. unless and until the American general public wakes up from its slumber and ignorance, and realizes the garbage their govt is feeding them, wen they realize their govt is made up of traitors who put the interests of another country above the American interests, ONLY wen the public pressure is so immense that the president and congress actually does wat its suppose to do, only then sumthing of a miracle will happen. otherwise its a pipe dream a utopia. calling the president the most powerful man in the world is a bloody joke. if he was all that powerful he wudnt bend over to the likes of netenyahu and the stooges in zionist lobby. i still wonder y do ppl vote, its the biggest lie ever. ur votes dont matter. the candidates r chosen on the basis of how much they grovel in front of the zionist lobby and surrender themselves to its policies and whims. obama aint different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets get sumthing straight here. NO AMERICAN PRESIDENT can and ever will have the balls to stand up to the Zionist lobby and demand to stop this nonesense. they are all puppets in their hands and they dance to their tunes and will. unless and until the American general public wakes up from its slumber and ignorance, and realizes the garbage their govt is feeding them, wen they realize their govt is made up of traitors who put the interests of another country above the American interests, ONLY wen the public pressure is so immense that the president and congress actually does wat its suppose to do, only then sumthing of a miracle will happen. otherwise its a pipe dream a utopia. calling the president the most powerful man in the world is a bloody joke. if he was all that powerful he wudnt bend over to the likes of netenyahu and the stooges in zionist lobby. i still wonder y do ppl vote, its the biggest lie ever. ur votes dont matter. the candidates r chosen on the basis of how much they grovel in front of the zionist lobby and surrender themselves to its policies and whims. obama aint different.</p>
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