Comments on: Christian fundamentalism and Zionism: Time to terminate this unholy alliance? http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/ Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:59:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steve Meikle http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-4515 Steve Meikle Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:02:31 +0000 http://www.onlineassociates.ae/demowp/wordpress/?p=60#comment-4515 Strictly apeaking the warning that Jews should repent and become christians, as mentioned in your article, can only be used as evidence of anti semitism if the preachers saying so singled the Jews out for this warning. Tey might be doing soas regards their motive, but the mere making of the warning is not proof of this, for the plain fact is that this warning properly taken in scriptural context applies to ALL humans. Therefore this warning given to the Jews can only be taken as anti semtism if you need to take evangelical christians as the enemies of the entire human race. And as for any Jew converting to christianity needing to junk his judaism, there is a vast difference between christian faith and church culture. though a convinced christian i reject church culture as mere baggage, therefore a Jew converting to christ would not need to junk his judaism. He would likely see it instead fulfilled BUT i do think the alliance between HAgee's crowd and the Zionists is unholy for it advocates evil, namely the destruction of the Palestinians. What Hagees people do not realise that the verse "hasten the coming of the Lord" which they appeal to dos not justify siding with war mongers to set off a conflagration in the Middle EAst. instead it is an invocation to go forth and preach the gospel of love and forgiveness, something they cannot do as they do not believe it. Hagee and co are heretics who abuse scripture, but pertaining to abuse the dictumn still stands, abusus non tollit usum. I believe that a proper understanding of fundamentalism is necessary in this matter, as a recovering fundamentalist I believe I have something to offer here, for fundamentalism is a misnomer. hagee and co do not believe in love and forgiveness, therefore they do not believe in the fundamentals of the Bible. THis cult mindset i one i have spent 25 years getting out of and recovery is nearly complete Strictly apeaking the warning that Jews should repent and become christians, as mentioned in your article, can only be used as evidence of anti semitism if the preachers saying so singled the Jews out for this warning. Tey might be doing soas regards their motive, but the mere making of the warning is not proof of this, for the plain fact is that this warning properly taken in scriptural context applies to ALL humans. Therefore this warning given to the Jews can only be taken as anti semtism if you need to take evangelical christians as the enemies of the entire human race.

And as for any Jew converting to christianity needing to junk his judaism, there is a vast difference between christian faith and church culture. though a convinced christian i reject church culture as mere baggage, therefore a Jew converting to christ would not need to junk his judaism. He would likely see it instead fulfilled

BUT i do think the alliance between HAgee’s crowd and the Zionists is unholy for it advocates evil, namely the destruction of the Palestinians.

What Hagees people do not realise that the verse “hasten the coming of the Lord” which they appeal to dos not justify siding with war mongers to set off a conflagration in the Middle EAst. instead it is an invocation to go forth and preach the gospel of love and forgiveness, something they cannot do as they do not believe it.

Hagee and co are heretics who abuse scripture, but pertaining to abuse the dictumn still stands, abusus non tollit usum.

I believe that a proper understanding of fundamentalism is necessary in this matter, as a recovering fundamentalist I believe I have something to offer here, for fundamentalism is a misnomer. hagee and co do not believe in love and forgiveness, therefore they do not believe in the fundamentals of the Bible. THis cult mindset i one i have spent 25 years getting out of and recovery is nearly complete

]]> By: sharif ali http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-4463 sharif ali Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:52:42 +0000 http://www.onlineassociates.ae/demowp/wordpress/?p=60#comment-4463 Dear Brother Alan Hart, May peace be with all of us. I have read through your well researched and excellent book "Zionism" The Real Enemy of Jews. You have done a massive job, selflessly because this sort of voluminous book may not bring you any financial gain as books written by pornographic writers like Salman Rushdie and his ilk. As usual the world is extremely unfair to those who seek justice and wish to fight against oppression and hence we believe in the hereafter. Volume one has been reprinted in India by Camel Books Calicut. Please inform me whether Volume Two has already been published as I love to finish reading your Volume Two. But money is not everything; it may be so to the superrich 0.001% of American capitalism. Kind regards, Take care and look after yourself and May one True Almighty Lord of the Worlds Bless you, protect you and give you better health and greater happiness and deeper vision. Dear Brother Alan Hart,
May peace be with all of us. I have read through your well researched and excellent book “Zionism” The Real Enemy of Jews.

You have done a massive job, selflessly because this sort of voluminous book may not bring you any financial gain as books written by pornographic writers like Salman Rushdie and his ilk.

As usual the world is extremely unfair to those who seek justice and wish to fight against oppression and hence we believe in the hereafter.

Volume one has been reprinted in India by Camel Books Calicut.
Please inform me whether Volume Two has already been published as I love to finish reading your Volume Two.

But money is not everything; it may be so to the superrich 0.001% of American capitalism. Kind regards, Take care and look after yourself and May one True Almighty Lord of the Worlds Bless you, protect you and give you better health and greater happiness and deeper vision.

]]> By: Tony Gosling http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-99 Tony Gosling Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:24:00 +0000 http://www.onlineassociates.ae/demowp/wordpress/?p=60#comment-99 What exactly do you mean by Christian fundamentalism? I believe the Bible, and that Jesus rose from the dead but I don't support the far right policies of Israel and the United States.<br/>I think you're actually talking about the Christian Zionists. Much more powerful in the United States than in Britain thank God!<br/><br/><br/>see this book<br/>Christian Zionism<br/>Road-map to Armageddon?<br/>by Stephen Sizer<br/>The term 'Zionism' was first coined in the late nineteenth century, and referred to the movement for the return of the Jewish people to an assured and secure homeland in Palestine. Ironically, this vision was largely nurtured and shaped by Christians long before it received widespread Jewish support........<br/>http://www.ivpbooks.com/pages/data.asp?layout=product.htm&IdISBN.exact=9781844740505 What exactly do you mean by Christian fundamentalism? I believe the Bible, and that Jesus rose from the dead but I don’t support the far right policies of Israel and the United States.
I think you’re actually talking about the Christian Zionists. Much more powerful in the United States than in Britain thank God!

see this book
Christian Zionism
Road-map to Armageddon?
by Stephen Sizer
The term ‘Zionism’ was first coined in the late nineteenth century, and referred to the movement for the return of the Jewish people to an assured and secure homeland in Palestine. Ironically, this vision was largely nurtured and shaped by Christians long before it received widespread Jewish support……..
http://www.ivpbooks.com/pages/data.asp?layout=product.htm&IdISBN.exact=9781844740505

]]> By: ngoodgame http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-100 ngoodgame Fri, 30 May 2008 01:55:00 +0000 http://www.onlineassociates.ae/demowp/wordpress/?p=60#comment-100 Great book Alan. I purchased the two volume set over a year ago on Amazon.com. I eagerly await the publishing of it here in the US so I can see you on your book tour.<br/><br/>Nate Great book Alan. I purchased the two volume set over a year ago on Amazon.com. I eagerly await the publishing of it here in the US so I can see you on your book tour.

Nate

]]> By: admin http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/comment-page-/#comment-101 admin Tue, 27 May 2008 23:29:23 +0000 http://www.onlineassociates.ae/demowp/wordpress/?p=60#comment-101 <p>Dear Faizal,</p> <p>You asked me to comment on possible parallels that could be made between JFK and Obama especially in the light Hilary's recall of Bobby Kennedy's assassination. That's a good idea. When I can find the time in the next week or two I will.</p> <p>Thank you for your kind comment about my latest book, <em>Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews. </em>Yes, it is currently only obtainable by Americans from Amazon because even the few sometimes courageous American publishers don't want the hassle they would get from the Zionist lobby for taking it on. But in due course it will be printed in America.</p> <p>Take care. (I say that to you but would say the same to Senator Obama!)</p> <p>Alan</p> Dear Faizal,

You asked me to comment on possible parallels that could be made between JFK and Obama especially in the light Hilary’s recall of Bobby Kennedy’s assassination. That’s a good idea. When I can find the time in the next week or two I will.

Thank you for your kind comment about my latest book, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews. Yes, it is currently only obtainable by Americans from Amazon because even the few sometimes courageous American publishers don’t want the hassle they would get from the Zionist lobby for taking it on. But in due course it will be printed in America.

Take care. (I say that to you but would say the same to Senator Obama!)

Alan

]]> By: faizal http://www.alanhart.net/christian-fundamentalism-and-zionism-time-to-terminate-this-unholy-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-98 faizal Tue, 27 May 2008 14:15:00 +0000 http://www.onlineassociates.ae/demowp/wordpress/?p=60#comment-98 Alan, I read your excellent book, Zionism: The worst enemy of the Jew, I had to order it from the UK, since its not obtainable in the US.<br/>Could you comment on possible parrallels that could be made between JFK and Obama especially relating to a comment by Hilary Clinton that Obama could be assasinated if he becomes president. This might border of speculation, however in light of your your extensive background knowlegde on the extent Polical Zionist would go to further their objectives.<br/><br/>Much appreciated<br/>Faizal Alan, I read your excellent book, Zionism: The worst enemy of the Jew, I had to order it from the UK, since its not obtainable in the US.
Could you comment on possible parrallels that could be made between JFK and Obama especially relating to a comment by Hilary Clinton that Obama could be assasinated if he becomes president. This might border of speculation, however in light of your your extensive background knowlegde on the extent Polical Zionist would go to further their objectives.

Much appreciated
Faizal

]]>