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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is good to highlight again the wonders wrought by Arab culture at its height.  Incredible.  

This guy is just a sorry looking, sorry thinking dummy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good to highlight again the wonders wrought by Arab culture at its height.  Incredible.  </p>
<p>This guy is just a sorry looking, sorry thinking dummy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Meikle</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/ethnic-cleansing-the-nice-way/comment-page-1/#comment-110454</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Meikle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 06:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Arab destroys everything he touches&quot; the man said. SO he does not know any history. He has never heard of the great Islamic Caliphate which stretched from the Pyrenees to the Indus and was the greatest civilization on earth at the time, which preserved the wisdom of the Ancients when Europe was a collection of mud spattered barbarians.

He also ignores the history of his own people, who found succour among the Muslims against the pogroms at the time of the Crusades etc. After all the Great Rabbi  Moses ben Maimon,  also known as Maimonides or Rambam, was based in Muslim Spain. This changed after 1492 because of the cruelty of the Reconquistas but the middle ages lasted about 1000 years

But Feiglin hates. That is what keeps him warm at nights, he does not want historical truth, only excuses for his hate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Arab destroys everything he touches&#8221; the man said. SO he does not know any history. He has never heard of the great Islamic Caliphate which stretched from the Pyrenees to the Indus and was the greatest civilization on earth at the time, which preserved the wisdom of the Ancients when Europe was a collection of mud spattered barbarians.</p>
<p>He also ignores the history of his own people, who found succour among the Muslims against the pogroms at the time of the Crusades etc. After all the Great Rabbi  Moses ben Maimon,  also known as Maimonides or Rambam, was based in Muslim Spain. This changed after 1492 because of the cruelty of the Reconquistas but the middle ages lasted about 1000 years</p>
<p>But Feiglin hates. That is what keeps him warm at nights, he does not want historical truth, only excuses for his hate</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Davey Wavey regarding Alan Hart&#039;s books. Indeed Alan has risked his life for what he has written. He has reconstructed the history of Palestine the Zionists have sought to wipe out. History is written by victors but time will tell how the Zionists fare. I hope future generations see Zionism will see it for what it is: As Monopolist Totalitarianism/Feudalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Davey Wavey regarding Alan Hart&#8217;s books. Indeed Alan has risked his life for what he has written. He has reconstructed the history of Palestine the Zionists have sought to wipe out. History is written by victors but time will tell how the Zionists fare. I hope future generations see Zionism will see it for what it is: As Monopolist Totalitarianism/Feudalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/ethnic-cleansing-the-nice-way/comment-page-1/#comment-100720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davey Wavey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 21:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing I said suggests that it is ok for countries to behave badly.  Nobody is entitled to a free ride.  But, Israel has made a national celebration of its own adherence to &quot;democratic&quot; and &quot;shared&quot; values and we must evaluate Israel as we would, say, Texas.  Actually, there are no shared values.  The reference is really to Zionists active (a fifth column, eh) in the US.  Israel &quot;shares values&quot; with them, not with America.  Even so, the trumpeted pretense requires then some conformity and, should such be absent, then Israel faces criticism.  

Here&#039;s a diddy for you:  Israel claims that criticism is &quot;anti-semitic&quot; and that it represents all Jews.  If you refer to Israeli policies and practices as &quot;Jewish&quot; policies and practices, however, you are also an &quot;anti-Semite.&quot;  How can Israel = Jews and yet if Hagel uses the term &quot;Jewish lobby&quot; he is anti-semitic.  Should he have said &quot;Israeli lobby&quot;?  Would that have been less &quot;anti-semitic&quot;?  How so? Or he is disallowed from referring to Israel (Jews) altogether?  You see -- just like Atzmon points out -- &quot;Jewish&quot; is patent nonsense and Israel is bs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing I said suggests that it is ok for countries to behave badly.  Nobody is entitled to a free ride.  But, Israel has made a national celebration of its own adherence to &#8220;democratic&#8221; and &#8220;shared&#8221; values and we must evaluate Israel as we would, say, Texas.  Actually, there are no shared values.  The reference is really to Zionists active (a fifth column, eh) in the US.  Israel &#8220;shares values&#8221; with them, not with America.  Even so, the trumpeted pretense requires then some conformity and, should such be absent, then Israel faces criticism.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a diddy for you:  Israel claims that criticism is &#8220;anti-semitic&#8221; and that it represents all Jews.  If you refer to Israeli policies and practices as &#8220;Jewish&#8221; policies and practices, however, you are also an &#8220;anti-Semite.&#8221;  How can Israel = Jews and yet if Hagel uses the term &#8220;Jewish lobby&#8221; he is anti-semitic.  Should he have said &#8220;Israeli lobby&#8221;?  Would that have been less &#8220;anti-semitic&#8221;?  How so? Or he is disallowed from referring to Israel (Jews) altogether?  You see &#8212; just like Atzmon points out &#8212; &#8220;Jewish&#8221; is patent nonsense and Israel is bs.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Brzezinski</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DW the bit about being paid by Alan was tongue-in-cheek.

In your last argument you are saying that Israel must be chastised for CLAIMING to be westernized and failing. Because of our previous discussion, this means that it’s OK for a country to behave badly as long as it does not CLAIM to be civilised. How then will we encourage improvement in these other countries?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW the bit about being paid by Alan was tongue-in-cheek.</p>
<p>In your last argument you are saying that Israel must be chastised for CLAIMING to be westernized and failing. Because of our previous discussion, this means that it’s OK for a country to behave badly as long as it does not CLAIM to be civilised. How then will we encourage improvement in these other countries?</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone who has read Hart&#039;s arduous and well-argued books knows very well he is not in the employ of any organization.  In fact, he risks a lot pursuing anti-Zionism and, I feel certain, doesn&#039;t make a living at it.  The probability that he would hire someone to increase his blog is miniscule.  The probability that you are an official hasbarist is much higher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has read Hart&#8217;s arduous and well-argued books knows very well he is not in the employ of any organization.  In fact, he risks a lot pursuing anti-Zionism and, I feel certain, doesn&#8217;t make a living at it.  The probability that he would hire someone to increase his blog is miniscule.  The probability that you are an official hasbarist is much higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Brzezinski</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 13:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maryam have you considered that I might be paid by Alan to drive up traffic to his blog? It&#039;s just as probable as what you&#039;re hinting at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maryam have you considered that I might be paid by Alan to drive up traffic to his blog? It&#8217;s just as probable as what you&#8217;re hinting at.</p>
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		<title>By: maryam</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that a zionist troll should show up on Alan&#039;s blog during the time when the zionists are trying to stop the appointment of Chuck Hagel as US Secretary of Defense.

Since Mr. Brezinski&#039;s comments are nothing more than the same old tired hasbara, I will not waste my energy or time on them.  But I will say that I find it amusing how zionists so doggedly stick to the same old rubbish no matter how the political landscape changes.  Having nothing new to say would compel most normal people to simply keep their mouths shut (or their hands off their keyboards, as the case may be).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that a zionist troll should show up on Alan&#8217;s blog during the time when the zionists are trying to stop the appointment of Chuck Hagel as US Secretary of Defense.</p>
<p>Since Mr. Brezinski&#8217;s comments are nothing more than the same old tired hasbara, I will not waste my energy or time on them.  But I will say that I find it amusing how zionists so doggedly stick to the same old rubbish no matter how the political landscape changes.  Having nothing new to say would compel most normal people to simply keep their mouths shut (or their hands off their keyboards, as the case may be).</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad -- The regional referents are not the relevant case.  Western Europe and the US are the proper comparisons precisely because Israel CLAIMS such provenance.  I think it is characteristic of Israel to curry favor, seeking attention and subsidies worldwide but to, at the same time, object when the attention turns critical...er...rather....&quot;anti-semitic.&quot; Israel has made itself unacceptable in many parlors as a result.  The Zionists have hijacked the Holocaust and Judaism for its own ends, namely to remove a people from their own homes and land so that other non-natives can settle in and on it, all properly subsidized by foreigners.  If Israel stops currying favor and money to further its otiose plans, it will cease to be a target of criticism (anti-semitism.)  As it stands, I would be surprised if any sovereign state would trust any Israeli promise or pledge.  Much of the world knows Netanyahu and Barak as small time crooks and liars, struggling for the big time, e.g. the West Bank and Iran. After all, the small economy doesn&#039;t permit big time payoffs.  And even the US Congress has been, as Friedman (no anti-Zionist him) said, &quot;bought and paid for&quot; like paying off a judge or a cop but on the international stage.  

Israel violates international law repeatedly with immunity.  Better, I think, if international law is enforced worldwide and we can all forgo the criticism. Israel can aggressively annex lands through force, in violation of the central tenet of the UN,  but it will not, at the same time, command a good reputation.  That will not happen as long as people can see and think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad &#8212; The regional referents are not the relevant case.  Western Europe and the US are the proper comparisons precisely because Israel CLAIMS such provenance.  I think it is characteristic of Israel to curry favor, seeking attention and subsidies worldwide but to, at the same time, object when the attention turns critical&#8230;er&#8230;rather&#8230;.&#8221;anti-semitic.&#8221; Israel has made itself unacceptable in many parlors as a result.  The Zionists have hijacked the Holocaust and Judaism for its own ends, namely to remove a people from their own homes and land so that other non-natives can settle in and on it, all properly subsidized by foreigners.  If Israel stops currying favor and money to further its otiose plans, it will cease to be a target of criticism (anti-semitism.)  As it stands, I would be surprised if any sovereign state would trust any Israeli promise or pledge.  Much of the world knows Netanyahu and Barak as small time crooks and liars, struggling for the big time, e.g. the West Bank and Iran. After all, the small economy doesn&#8217;t permit big time payoffs.  And even the US Congress has been, as Friedman (no anti-Zionist him) said, &#8220;bought and paid for&#8221; like paying off a judge or a cop but on the international stage.  </p>
<p>Israel violates international law repeatedly with immunity.  Better, I think, if international law is enforced worldwide and we can all forgo the criticism. Israel can aggressively annex lands through force, in violation of the central tenet of the UN,  but it will not, at the same time, command a good reputation.  That will not happen as long as people can see and think.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Brzezinski</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 03:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DW: Thanks for telling me I have too much time on my hands, whilst writing so voluminously. I appreciate the merriment.

I did answer your question about, &quot;reference to OTHER unacceptable regimes..&quot; but it was a little subtle and you are too bull-headed to have noticed.

Any bad behaviour must be subject to correction and that correction should be in line with what similar offenders receive. This is the basis of case law. 

If Israel is guilty of crimes and others also guilty of them, all should be meted similar punishments. In this case, Israel is pitted against regional jurisdictions that are quite obviously guilty of pretty much everything Israel is accused of. By ignoring these other &quot;crimes,&quot; a precedent is set whereby it is not fair to punish just Israel.

Further, a reasonable investigator would be suspicious of the fact that only one country was consistently being singled out - see my UN example. That would raise the distinct possibility that the one country was being used as a scapegoat and might not even be guilty at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DW: Thanks for telling me I have too much time on my hands, whilst writing so voluminously. I appreciate the merriment.</p>
<p>I did answer your question about, &#8220;reference to OTHER unacceptable regimes..&#8221; but it was a little subtle and you are too bull-headed to have noticed.</p>
<p>Any bad behaviour must be subject to correction and that correction should be in line with what similar offenders receive. This is the basis of case law. </p>
<p>If Israel is guilty of crimes and others also guilty of them, all should be meted similar punishments. In this case, Israel is pitted against regional jurisdictions that are quite obviously guilty of pretty much everything Israel is accused of. By ignoring these other &#8220;crimes,&#8221; a precedent is set whereby it is not fair to punish just Israel.</p>
<p>Further, a reasonable investigator would be suspicious of the fact that only one country was consistently being singled out &#8211; see my UN example. That would raise the distinct possibility that the one country was being used as a scapegoat and might not even be guilty at all.</p>
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