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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 03:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think the interesting quiosetn here is not which is &quot;more representative&quot; of Islam, but what the pressures and incentives are in each case.Dr. Abuelaish is a stateless resident of the Gaza Strip...(h)e has to be extremely careful in his criticisms of...&quot;...Islam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the interesting quiosetn here is not which is &#8220;more representative&#8221; of Islam, but what the pressures and incentives are in each case.Dr. Abuelaish is a stateless resident of the Gaza Strip&#8230;(h)e has to be extremely careful in his criticisms of&#8230;&#8221;&#8230;Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2014 04:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Decades of indoctrination America has always been the target of the zionists to keep their charade going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decades of indoctrination America has always been the target of the zionists to keep their charade going.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 08:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan, aint nothing gonna change, the people of the u.s, might be getting sick of Israel,s bullshit but the the people in our government could not care less. Jerry Brown is a twink who backs up on old doorknobs. America what have you come to,a slave to a little pissant nazi like country,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, aint nothing gonna change, the people of the u.s, might be getting sick of Israel,s bullshit but the the people in our government could not care less. Jerry Brown is a twink who backs up on old doorknobs. America what have you come to,a slave to a little pissant nazi like country,</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Mysiewicz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Mysiewicz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 08:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jews and Moslems got along well for over a thousand years.  They can do so again.  Before testing out their concept in Palestine, the Zionists should have done so someplace like Madagascar to be sure it worked in the first place.  This conflict and garrison-state thing ruined the whole experiment (as explained to me by Uri Avnery).  The original dream was that Jews could maintain a productive society of their own without the need for predating on the &quot;goyim&quot;.  A worthwhile goal for those Jews who wish it.  (It does say in the Bible that &quot;The lion shall lie down with the lamb.  Both shall cheweth the cud.&quot;) I&#039;d be a Zionist supporter if it were not for displaced Palestinians who owned the land--I know what it is like to have a home stolen by legal trickery and be driven into homelessness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jews and Moslems got along well for over a thousand years.  They can do so again.  Before testing out their concept in Palestine, the Zionists should have done so someplace like Madagascar to be sure it worked in the first place.  This conflict and garrison-state thing ruined the whole experiment (as explained to me by Uri Avnery).  The original dream was that Jews could maintain a productive society of their own without the need for predating on the &#8220;goyim&#8221;.  A worthwhile goal for those Jews who wish it.  (It does say in the Bible that &#8220;The lion shall lie down with the lamb.  Both shall cheweth the cud.&#8221;) I&#8217;d be a Zionist supporter if it were not for displaced Palestinians who owned the land&#8211;I know what it is like to have a home stolen by legal trickery and be driven into homelessness.</p>
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		<title>By: Confoundmeonce</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Confoundmeonce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 07:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan, The answer, clear and To the Mark...is..NO. Not only is This US of A. Citizens Fed up with this Rogue Facsimile of a &#039;&#039;State&#039; Trying to Make it A  &#039;Homeland Of Jews Only..They Will Never Succeed. Two very Good Reasons. One..It is an illegitimate venture on stolen land. Second, It is Existing  at the Expense of The American taxes and They are Sick of Being Robbed of Their heritage by these Users. The Anger has Become Unbearable to  us. We suffer In many Instances and Are Now Wondering Why Our &#039;president Lets It Continue. Time To Stop Robbing Peter to pay Paul.  SO&lt; Alan, You are Exactly Correct. This Can`t continue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, The answer, clear and To the Mark&#8230;is..NO. Not only is This US of A. Citizens Fed up with this Rogue Facsimile of a &#8221;State&#8217; Trying to Make it A  &#8216;Homeland Of Jews Only..They Will Never Succeed. Two very Good Reasons. One..It is an illegitimate venture on stolen land. Second, It is Existing  at the Expense of The American taxes and They are Sick of Being Robbed of Their heritage by these Users. The Anger has Become Unbearable to  us. We suffer In many Instances and Are Now Wondering Why Our &#8216;president Lets It Continue. Time To Stop Robbing Peter to pay Paul.  SO&lt; Alan, You are Exactly Correct. This Can`t continue.</p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ontogram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Zionist attempt to create an ethnic state from nothing has failed because it became too protracted.  The Palestinian problem was not resolved quickly (perhaps genocide).  In any case, it is not possible to create out of the air an ethnic state in our time.  Historically, nationalism evolved from a cohesive identity located in situ, in a contiguous area.  The identity grows out of the land and the reflects the neighbors.  Today, that sort of nationalism is repugnant because it causes death and destruction.  Today -- a Jew can be a Frenchman, but a Frenchman can&#039;t be a Jew.  Why not?  He cannot be a Jew in the Israel sense of the identity because he is not Jewish.  So, Jewish is not like French, is it?  Zionism tried to make a state but not in situ and that is a major failing. 

Secondly, ancient Israel was not much of a survivor state.  It was finally done in by the big guys, the empires that GREW by incorporating peoples and tribes around them, e.g. Roman, Persians, etc.  And Israel?  The exclusive character of Judaism condemned Israel to limited human resources and limited growth.  Rome rolled over this little state handily,

It is the same today:  The state of Israel cannot survive long term because of its exclusive definition.  I think that the violence and treasure needed to sustain this exclusive state is a good measure of the unnatural, non-historical character of the project.  Without such subvention and murder, it would not have survived at all.  Even today, it still requires extra resources from exogenous sources to survive and that dependence dooms the state.  

I think it will get much worse before it gets better.  I can imagine the fanatical elements in Israel creating war, even nuclear war, when they don&#039;t get their way.  These supremacists will richly deserve the fate that will finally take them down.  They will be hunted down and condemned like Nazis after the war.

IMHO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zionist attempt to create an ethnic state from nothing has failed because it became too protracted.  The Palestinian problem was not resolved quickly (perhaps genocide).  In any case, it is not possible to create out of the air an ethnic state in our time.  Historically, nationalism evolved from a cohesive identity located in situ, in a contiguous area.  The identity grows out of the land and the reflects the neighbors.  Today, that sort of nationalism is repugnant because it causes death and destruction.  Today &#8212; a Jew can be a Frenchman, but a Frenchman can&#8217;t be a Jew.  Why not?  He cannot be a Jew in the Israel sense of the identity because he is not Jewish.  So, Jewish is not like French, is it?  Zionism tried to make a state but not in situ and that is a major failing. </p>
<p>Secondly, ancient Israel was not much of a survivor state.  It was finally done in by the big guys, the empires that GREW by incorporating peoples and tribes around them, e.g. Roman, Persians, etc.  And Israel?  The exclusive character of Judaism condemned Israel to limited human resources and limited growth.  Rome rolled over this little state handily,</p>
<p>It is the same today:  The state of Israel cannot survive long term because of its exclusive definition.  I think that the violence and treasure needed to sustain this exclusive state is a good measure of the unnatural, non-historical character of the project.  Without such subvention and murder, it would not have survived at all.  Even today, it still requires extra resources from exogenous sources to survive and that dependence dooms the state.  </p>
<p>I think it will get much worse before it gets better.  I can imagine the fanatical elements in Israel creating war, even nuclear war, when they don&#8217;t get their way.  These supremacists will richly deserve the fate that will finally take them down.  They will be hunted down and condemned like Nazis after the war.</p>
<p>IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rehmat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Hart, I posted on this subject in June 2010.

Personally, I believe in the ‘option’ of a democratic one-state Palestine, based on ‘one-vote- one person’ with equal rights for all its citizen, dismantling of racist Zionist political parties and Israel Occupation Force (IOF), right of return for the natives and suitable compensations for their loss of properties to the Jew settlers – and of course the dismantling of country’s nuclear arsenal. All those racist Jews, who don’t want to live in peace with the natives – they should be allowed to migrate back to their ancestral lands – Germany, Russia, Poland, France, the UK, the US, etc. – as many White settlers did in South Africa, Algeria and India. In fact, Professor Edward Said had predicted long time ago that the great majority of Israeli Jews would rather prefer to live under Muslim rule in Palestine than going back to their ancestral western homeland where they know antiSemitism would be waiting for them.

http://rehmat1.com/2010/06/18/palestine-the-third-option/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Hart, I posted on this subject in June 2010.</p>
<p>Personally, I believe in the ‘option’ of a democratic one-state Palestine, based on ‘one-vote- one person’ with equal rights for all its citizen, dismantling of racist Zionist political parties and Israel Occupation Force (IOF), right of return for the natives and suitable compensations for their loss of properties to the Jew settlers – and of course the dismantling of country’s nuclear arsenal. All those racist Jews, who don’t want to live in peace with the natives – they should be allowed to migrate back to their ancestral lands – Germany, Russia, Poland, France, the UK, the US, etc. – as many White settlers did in South Africa, Algeria and India. In fact, Professor Edward Said had predicted long time ago that the great majority of Israeli Jews would rather prefer to live under Muslim rule in Palestine than going back to their ancestral western homeland where they know antiSemitism would be waiting for them.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.com/2010/06/18/palestine-the-third-option/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.com/2010/06/18/palestine-the-third-option/</a></p>
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