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		<title>By: Otoniel</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything comes to light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything comes to light.</p>
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		<title>By: France</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[France]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way cool! Some very valid points! I appreciate you penning this write-up 
and the rest of the website is really good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way cool! Some very valid points! I appreciate you penning this write-up<br />
and the rest of the website is really good.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
		<link>http://www.alanhart.net/israels-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-the-full-story-2/comment-page-2/#comment-53765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davey Wavey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dar -- The Liberty &quot;mishap&quot; is replete with unexplained established facts.  It is not appropriate that it be glossed over as just another unfortunate event in the fog of war.  That is not sufficient for the 34 Americans died from the assault.  The inability of the US and Israel to explain these facts leads one naturally to suspect that more is at play here.  The absence of thorough-going investigation and, most importantly, the testimony of the survivors do not merely &quot;suggest&quot; a deliberate assault but depict such an assault vividly, testimonies inconsistent with official reports.  Americans want answers to the outstanding questions including why President Johnson called back fighters sent to assist that vessel, why the virtually destroyed vessel was pummeled further after the vicious air assault by naval vessels of the State of Israel, i.e. why the destroyed vessel was targeted beyond the point of its destruction and the loss of life, when it was absolutely dead for any practical purpose etc. etc.  

The construction that suggests that every angry outcry about this matter is an assault on Israel or on Jews (!)is the vilest part of the whole thing, but it is the characteristic defensive pose of Israel.  This is not about Jews or that crappy state, it is about an unwarranted attack on an unarmed American vessel and its defenseless servicemen. When you understand this FIRST, and stop that mulling puking carp about &quot;Jews,&quot; you will begin to understand why in any event whatever  -- if it takes another half century -- Israel will pay dearly for this attack and for the dalliance of that hyped up poseur Moshe Dayan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dar &#8212; The Liberty &#8220;mishap&#8221; is replete with unexplained established facts.  It is not appropriate that it be glossed over as just another unfortunate event in the fog of war.  That is not sufficient for the 34 Americans died from the assault.  The inability of the US and Israel to explain these facts leads one naturally to suspect that more is at play here.  The absence of thorough-going investigation and, most importantly, the testimony of the survivors do not merely &#8220;suggest&#8221; a deliberate assault but depict such an assault vividly, testimonies inconsistent with official reports.  Americans want answers to the outstanding questions including why President Johnson called back fighters sent to assist that vessel, why the virtually destroyed vessel was pummeled further after the vicious air assault by naval vessels of the State of Israel, i.e. why the destroyed vessel was targeted beyond the point of its destruction and the loss of life, when it was absolutely dead for any practical purpose etc. etc.  </p>
<p>The construction that suggests that every angry outcry about this matter is an assault on Israel or on Jews (!)is the vilest part of the whole thing, but it is the characteristic defensive pose of Israel.  This is not about Jews or that crappy state, it is about an unwarranted attack on an unarmed American vessel and its defenseless servicemen. When you understand this FIRST, and stop that mulling puking carp about &#8220;Jews,&#8221; you will begin to understand why in any event whatever  &#8212; if it takes another half century &#8212; Israel will pay dearly for this attack and for the dalliance of that hyped up poseur Moshe Dayan.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davey Wavey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JamesAt17 -- You&#039;re not really 17 are you?  If you are, you are very very precocious.  Please note that Obama/Clinton are not likely to call out the Zionist liars if Israel and this country, cut their foreign aid or anything of the kind.  I had that fantasy for a while as well but my cumulative impression that it will not happen.  Obama is an egotist and loves power not justice, same for Clinton, so I think you are whistling in the dark about that. 

I do get the impression that more Americans are coming round to questioning, talking about, investigating and therefore ultimately loathing Bibi, AIPAC and every human piece of that machinery. But Obama is not one of them.  And then I am actively involved in opposition, so I may not be a good judge of average sentiment in the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JamesAt17 &#8212; You&#8217;re not really 17 are you?  If you are, you are very very precocious.  Please note that Obama/Clinton are not likely to call out the Zionist liars if Israel and this country, cut their foreign aid or anything of the kind.  I had that fantasy for a while as well but my cumulative impression that it will not happen.  Obama is an egotist and loves power not justice, same for Clinton, so I think you are whistling in the dark about that. </p>
<p>I do get the impression that more Americans are coming round to questioning, talking about, investigating and therefore ultimately loathing Bibi, AIPAC and every human piece of that machinery. But Obama is not one of them.  And then I am actively involved in opposition, so I may not be a good judge of average sentiment in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesAt17</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading more comments, only one thing comes ot mind. Let the ignorant be ignorant still. All of us reading these comments know whom that person is so I need not mention the name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading more comments, only one thing comes ot mind. Let the ignorant be ignorant still. All of us reading these comments know whom that person is so I need not mention the name.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesAt17</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 23:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Zionism never had a golden era, it was always rancid because it is a big fat lie and now everybody is finally figuring it out.&quot; I wish that were true about everyone figuring it out. I do talk with other people that I have never ever met in my life and talk about this, but after doing so, not one of them gives a sh-t. All of this can be right in our faces and millions choose not to look at it. Those Zionist in our government will make sure that a false story is fed to the U.S. public, and they will swallow it without question and still allow the government to give billions to that little piece of crap in the Middle East. I do believe that those in the government of Israel have threatened other nations with an attack by nuclear weapons which makes those leaders of that nation to follow the dictates of those in charge of the government of Isreal. Obama may be the worst president in U.S. history, but I hope with all my heart that he is showing he has some balls and letting the nastry little place know that this nation is not following everything coming out of the mouth of Bibi. - Beware. The book of Revelation does mention people that call themselves Jews but are not. I beleive we are seeing who those people are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Zionism never had a golden era, it was always rancid because it is a big fat lie and now everybody is finally figuring it out.&#8221; I wish that were true about everyone figuring it out. I do talk with other people that I have never ever met in my life and talk about this, but after doing so, not one of them gives a sh-t. All of this can be right in our faces and millions choose not to look at it. Those Zionist in our government will make sure that a false story is fed to the U.S. public, and they will swallow it without question and still allow the government to give billions to that little piece of crap in the Middle East. I do believe that those in the government of Israel have threatened other nations with an attack by nuclear weapons which makes those leaders of that nation to follow the dictates of those in charge of the government of Isreal. Obama may be the worst president in U.S. history, but I hope with all my heart that he is showing he has some balls and letting the nastry little place know that this nation is not following everything coming out of the mouth of Bibi. &#8211; Beware. The book of Revelation does mention people that call themselves Jews but are not. I beleive we are seeing who those people are.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davey Wavey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First -- I didn&#039;t say they &quot;needed&quot; hours and hours:  I said they &quot;took&quot; this time.  Get it right.  Secondly, I am not fighting with you about morality in general (someone else is), but I don&#039;t mind adding that in this department the Zionists are liable to the hilt, from the gitgo and ever after.  If Zionists didn&#039;t simply slaughter their enemies wholesale it was for the very good reason that there were observers and they would have to answer for it without question and it would be very bad press.  It was not a decision born of moral qualms as the record demonstrates convincingly that the IDF and the government have never had any qualms about anything only concerns about public opinion.

And you haven&#039;t answer why Israel did not make any effort to &quot;coordinate&quot; with this allied vessel.  Rather than attributing this absence to Americans, what about Israel.  Why didn&#039;t they ask if that was an American ship and what was it doing there?  There is no record of any inquiry whatsoever. 

So give it up.  Zionism never had a golden era, it was always rancid because it is a big fat lie and now everybody is finally figuring it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First &#8212; I didn&#8217;t say they &#8220;needed&#8221; hours and hours:  I said they &#8220;took&#8221; this time.  Get it right.  Secondly, I am not fighting with you about morality in general (someone else is), but I don&#8217;t mind adding that in this department the Zionists are liable to the hilt, from the gitgo and ever after.  If Zionists didn&#8217;t simply slaughter their enemies wholesale it was for the very good reason that there were observers and they would have to answer for it without question and it would be very bad press.  It was not a decision born of moral qualms as the record demonstrates convincingly that the IDF and the government have never had any qualms about anything only concerns about public opinion.</p>
<p>And you haven&#8217;t answer why Israel did not make any effort to &#8220;coordinate&#8221; with this allied vessel.  Rather than attributing this absence to Americans, what about Israel.  Why didn&#8217;t they ask if that was an American ship and what was it doing there?  There is no record of any inquiry whatsoever. </p>
<p>So give it up.  Zionism never had a golden era, it was always rancid because it is a big fat lie and now everybody is finally figuring it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Dar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 19:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sole purpose of my intervention in this discussion was meant to ask some questions and to try to find some rational explanation to the Liberty mishap. And not take the conspiracy theories and hate-filled arguments for granted. My conclusion still is that both sides as well as the particular circumstances of the hour are all equality to blame for what happen. You on the other hand pursue an agenda far beyound the Liberty affair...based on you obvious dislike of the Jews and Israel..this transpires from every single sentense of yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sole purpose of my intervention in this discussion was meant to ask some questions and to try to find some rational explanation to the Liberty mishap. And not take the conspiracy theories and hate-filled arguments for granted. My conclusion still is that both sides as well as the particular circumstances of the hour are all equality to blame for what happen. You on the other hand pursue an agenda far beyound the Liberty affair&#8230;based on you obvious dislike of the Jews and Israel..this transpires from every single sentense of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: William Smart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Smart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Dar - give it up.

You can either defend the widely reported murder of 1000 or so civilians and POWs - or you can defend inventing a statute of limitations that protects Israelis but does not protect Ukrainians.

Don&#039;t try to do both.

Best of all, don&#039;t try to retract the admission you made that Israel intended to sink a US ship (leaving no survivors).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Dar &#8211; give it up.</p>
<p>You can either defend the widely reported murder of 1000 or so civilians and POWs &#8211; or you can defend inventing a statute of limitations that protects Israelis but does not protect Ukrainians.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t try to do both.</p>
<p>Best of all, don&#8217;t try to retract the admission you made that Israel intended to sink a US ship (leaving no survivors).</p>
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		<title>By: Davey Wavey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davey Wavey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 13:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dar --  There is something a little dense about saying &quot;....must have had a good reason.&quot;  It is the &quot;reason&quot; that is the issue here and you assume it must have been &quot;good.&quot;  Certainly, it was &quot;good&quot; from the Dayan standpoint.  From any other standpoint, it was not good at all. 

Israelis took hours and hours to identify the vessel and once confirmed attacked in excess.  You suggest that Israelis would be careful careful regarding the relationship with the US and yet they attacked all out.  If they would worry about the US, then even if the vessel was not coordinated with Israel, Israel could have coordinated with it, no?  But chose not to!  Chose instead to sink it and kill them all. 

So, you are very mixed up and haven&#039;t anything left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dar &#8212;  There is something a little dense about saying &#8220;&#8230;.must have had a good reason.&#8221;  It is the &#8220;reason&#8221; that is the issue here and you assume it must have been &#8220;good.&#8221;  Certainly, it was &#8220;good&#8221; from the Dayan standpoint.  From any other standpoint, it was not good at all. </p>
<p>Israelis took hours and hours to identify the vessel and once confirmed attacked in excess.  You suggest that Israelis would be careful careful regarding the relationship with the US and yet they attacked all out.  If they would worry about the US, then even if the vessel was not coordinated with Israel, Israel could have coordinated with it, no?  But chose not to!  Chose instead to sink it and kill them all. </p>
<p>So, you are very mixed up and haven&#8217;t anything left.</p>
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