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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2013 06:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m least surprised by Obama&#039;s failure to convince Israeli Jews and zionist leaders that Zionist entity&#039;s existence depends on the establishment of a viable, democratic and totally independent Palestinian state side-by-side it. In fact, Obama, like the other US presidents before him, is a poodle of the powerful Jewish/Zionist lobby groups. He could force the Netanyahu government to come to its senses by understanding that Obama administration is tired of playing a Zionist poodle and wants to act like a patriotic government by putting American interests over Israel&#039;s security.

Obama can achieve that objective by canceling all aid to the Zionist entity for only 2-3 years.

Only naive people believe United States to be a democracy in the real sense. 

In the US, no political leader can dream of working for the interests of his own country. They all compete with each other to prove to the Israel lobby groups (AIPAC, ADL, AJC, etc.) that he/she can look after the interests of a foreign country (Israel) better than his/her opponents. Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has pulled the mask from the US democratic charade: “There are many Members of Congress who wants to be free. I am one of them. I wanted to be free to vote according to my conscience, but I had been told that if I did not sign a pledge supporting the military superiority of Israel, no support would come my way. And sure enough, I did not sign the pledge and no support came my way. I suffered silently year in and year out, because I refused to sign the pledge. An then like a slave that found a way to buy his freedom – I went to work – I wanted to be free – Free to cast the vote in US Congress as I saw fit and not as I was dictated to…..” – Cynthia McKinney.

http://rehmat1.com/2010/01/16/it-is-not-a-democracy-stupid/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m least surprised by Obama&#8217;s failure to convince Israeli Jews and zionist leaders that Zionist entity&#8217;s existence depends on the establishment of a viable, democratic and totally independent Palestinian state side-by-side it. In fact, Obama, like the other US presidents before him, is a poodle of the powerful Jewish/Zionist lobby groups. He could force the Netanyahu government to come to its senses by understanding that Obama administration is tired of playing a Zionist poodle and wants to act like a patriotic government by putting American interests over Israel&#8217;s security.</p>
<p>Obama can achieve that objective by canceling all aid to the Zionist entity for only 2-3 years.</p>
<p>Only naive people believe United States to be a democracy in the real sense. </p>
<p>In the US, no political leader can dream of working for the interests of his own country. They all compete with each other to prove to the Israel lobby groups (AIPAC, ADL, AJC, etc.) that he/she can look after the interests of a foreign country (Israel) better than his/her opponents. Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has pulled the mask from the US democratic charade: “There are many Members of Congress who wants to be free. I am one of them. I wanted to be free to vote according to my conscience, but I had been told that if I did not sign a pledge supporting the military superiority of Israel, no support would come my way. And sure enough, I did not sign the pledge and no support came my way. I suffered silently year in and year out, because I refused to sign the pledge. An then like a slave that found a way to buy his freedom – I went to work – I wanted to be free – Free to cast the vote in US Congress as I saw fit and not as I was dictated to…..” – Cynthia McKinney.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.com/2010/01/16/it-is-not-a-democracy-stupid/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.com/2010/01/16/it-is-not-a-democracy-stupid/</a></p>
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		<title>By: rosemerry</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brad Brzinski you are showing such ignorance and bias.
&quot;It’s somewhat analogous to Muslims making the Hajj to Mecca in their lifetimes; they do not have to be Arabs to do this&quot;
Most Muslims eg the huge number in Indonesia, ARE NOT ARABS. It is NOT anamagous to &quot;Jews&quot;, however defined.
As for the &quot;leaving&quot; of Gazabeing equivalent to giving land back to Palestinians-look at how the poor crowded Gazans live, with &quot;security zones&quot; stopping farming or other acts, fishermen being restricted,constant attacks and destruction, no freedom of movement, no exports allowed. You call this the same as Israelis living on stolen land using stolen water and expelling their sewage onto Palestine,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad Brzinski you are showing such ignorance and bias.<br />
&#8220;It’s somewhat analogous to Muslims making the Hajj to Mecca in their lifetimes; they do not have to be Arabs to do this&#8221;<br />
Most Muslims eg the huge number in Indonesia, ARE NOT ARABS. It is NOT anamagous to &#8220;Jews&#8221;, however defined.<br />
As for the &#8220;leaving&#8221; of Gazabeing equivalent to giving land back to Palestinians-look at how the poor crowded Gazans live, with &#8220;security zones&#8221; stopping farming or other acts, fishermen being restricted,constant attacks and destruction, no freedom of movement, no exports allowed. You call this the same as Israelis living on stolen land using stolen water and expelling their sewage onto Palestine,</p>
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		<title>By: rosemerry</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We stand together because we share a commitment to helping our fellow human beings around the world.&quot;
This could hardly be further from the truth. The USA IS like 
Israel in its takeovers, cruelty and self-aggrandisement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We stand together because we share a commitment to helping our fellow human beings around the world.&#8221;<br />
This could hardly be further from the truth. The USA IS like<br />
Israel in its takeovers, cruelty and self-aggrandisement.</p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jay  Thanks.  It has taken me a lifetime to crack the code, but I&#039;ve got it now.  Alan&#039;s books were a big part of my re-education, the history part.  Michael Oren&#039;s book &quot;Six Day War&quot; raised so many questions with me that I started down the anti-Zionist path.  I have written Ambassador Oren thanking him for his oversights in telling the tale and how it re-created my own thinking! Wished him many new royalties.  Ambassador to the US, born in NYC and raised in NJ.  

One of the hard truths of our time is that the Zionist program was always radical, extremist and racist, even in its earlier liberal days:  Israel has given political form and clout to Jewish racism, shaming humanity everywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jay  Thanks.  It has taken me a lifetime to crack the code, but I&#8217;ve got it now.  Alan&#8217;s books were a big part of my re-education, the history part.  Michael Oren&#8217;s book &#8220;Six Day War&#8221; raised so many questions with me that I started down the anti-Zionist path.  I have written Ambassador Oren thanking him for his oversights in telling the tale and how it re-created my own thinking! Wished him many new royalties.  Ambassador to the US, born in NYC and raised in NJ.  </p>
<p>One of the hard truths of our time is that the Zionist program was always radical, extremist and racist, even in its earlier liberal days:  Israel has given political form and clout to Jewish racism, shaming humanity everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ontogram, talk about hitting the nail on the head... your posts here should be widely published (yours too Griffiths).  Very well said my friends.  It&#039;s a pity only a tiny few will read them here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ontogram, talk about hitting the nail on the head&#8230; your posts here should be widely published (yours too Griffiths).  Very well said my friends.  It&#8217;s a pity only a tiny few will read them here.</p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Griffiths  You&#039;ve hit the nail on the head: &quot;...this strange belief in a racist deity who donated a tract of land many years ago in the Middle East to one group of favoured people.&quot;

The heart of Zionism is the &quot;specialness&quot; of Judaism and Jews and its corollary - hatred for gentiles.  When you turn the desperate struggle of Jews throughout history inside out, one can begin to understand what&#039;s what.  The racism is not in the anti-semites, it is in the Jews themselves (and I am one.)  The segregation of Jewish life from gentile life was driven by Jews themselves.  They created their ghettos, they proscribed themselves from general society, they insisted on their racial uniqueness.  This is why all those Jewish organizations trumpeting against &quot;hate&quot; and &quot;anti-semitism&quot; shy away from the question of why such &quot;hate&quot; and &quot;anti-semitism&quot; exists.  They say it is just irrational and hastily move the conversation forward.  In fact, this opposition to Jewry has a foundation in racism of Jewishness. Everybody shies away from this discussion. 

Israel is the proof in the pudding:  It has erected a wall sealing inside a &quot;Jewish&quot; state (20% are not Jewish!).  This is why it is never clear just what constitutes &quot;Jewishness&quot;.  Are we a people, a race, an ethnicity, a religion, a party, a book club....what?  To be a Jew is to share the conceit of special DNA and a special relationship with the Ruler of the Universe.  Jewish history is not a history of persecution but of persecuting.  The real racism is anti-gentilism.  

While Judaism should have disappeared into one of the universal faiths long ago, it persisted BECAUSE of its racism and now Israel has given that racism full vent.  This is why &quot;Jewish&quot; organizations promoting the Palestinian cause are still supremacist (or they are just wrong-headed.) Jewish Voice for Peace and Tru&#039;ah are nonsense organizations.  There is no &quot;Jewish&quot; tradition of universal ethics or universal dignity of man etc.  There is, I will note, a long tradition of opposing Jewish racist values among Jews, opposition to Jewishness, including guys like Finkelstein, Chomsky, Kove, and, if I may, myself,  but this is not a Jewish tradition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Griffiths  You&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head: &#8220;&#8230;this strange belief in a racist deity who donated a tract of land many years ago in the Middle East to one group of favoured people.&#8221;</p>
<p>The heart of Zionism is the &#8220;specialness&#8221; of Judaism and Jews and its corollary &#8211; hatred for gentiles.  When you turn the desperate struggle of Jews throughout history inside out, one can begin to understand what&#8217;s what.  The racism is not in the anti-semites, it is in the Jews themselves (and I am one.)  The segregation of Jewish life from gentile life was driven by Jews themselves.  They created their ghettos, they proscribed themselves from general society, they insisted on their racial uniqueness.  This is why all those Jewish organizations trumpeting against &#8220;hate&#8221; and &#8220;anti-semitism&#8221; shy away from the question of why such &#8220;hate&#8221; and &#8220;anti-semitism&#8221; exists.  They say it is just irrational and hastily move the conversation forward.  In fact, this opposition to Jewry has a foundation in racism of Jewishness. Everybody shies away from this discussion. </p>
<p>Israel is the proof in the pudding:  It has erected a wall sealing inside a &#8220;Jewish&#8221; state (20% are not Jewish!).  This is why it is never clear just what constitutes &#8220;Jewishness&#8221;.  Are we a people, a race, an ethnicity, a religion, a party, a book club&#8230;.what?  To be a Jew is to share the conceit of special DNA and a special relationship with the Ruler of the Universe.  Jewish history is not a history of persecution but of persecuting.  The real racism is anti-gentilism.  </p>
<p>While Judaism should have disappeared into one of the universal faiths long ago, it persisted BECAUSE of its racism and now Israel has given that racism full vent.  This is why &#8220;Jewish&#8221; organizations promoting the Palestinian cause are still supremacist (or they are just wrong-headed.) Jewish Voice for Peace and Tru&#8217;ah are nonsense organizations.  There is no &#8220;Jewish&#8221; tradition of universal ethics or universal dignity of man etc.  There is, I will note, a long tradition of opposing Jewish racist values among Jews, opposition to Jewishness, including guys like Finkelstein, Chomsky, Kove, and, if I may, myself,  but this is not a Jewish tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Debbie -- I think you are putting the cart before the horse.  The political realities of the ME determine what is what.  The reality of a &quot;Jewish&quot; military state sets this stage.  If people are drawn to the fray as mischief makers and hawkers, well it is only human to try to capitalize on things.  So, a nothing, a nebbich like Netanyahu exploits fear and gets into a top dog position.  Seedy organizations encourage violence by demanding &quot;peace&quot;, e.g. ADL, SWU, Simon Weisenthal, etc.  And etc.  But this is all after the fact.  There is nothing new in the proposition, the one you vividly articulate, that humans crap up almost everything. And, sure, some of these guys stir the pot only for the money in armaments or for power.  But these are consequences, not causes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Debbie &#8212; I think you are putting the cart before the horse.  The political realities of the ME determine what is what.  The reality of a &#8220;Jewish&#8221; military state sets this stage.  If people are drawn to the fray as mischief makers and hawkers, well it is only human to try to capitalize on things.  So, a nothing, a nebbich like Netanyahu exploits fear and gets into a top dog position.  Seedy organizations encourage violence by demanding &#8220;peace&#8221;, e.g. ADL, SWU, Simon Weisenthal, etc.  And etc.  But this is all after the fact.  There is nothing new in the proposition, the one you vividly articulate, that humans crap up almost everything. And, sure, some of these guys stir the pot only for the money in armaments or for power.  But these are consequences, not causes.</p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pete --  I had a similar fantasy.  Obama has thrown Palestine under the train in order to build political capital domestically, for his domestic programs.  Clearly, he has chosen to be remembered for these programs -- healthcare, jobs -- rather than settling the ME nightmare.  He might have elected otherwise:  He might have elected to be the great foreign policy president, Nixon visiting commie China or Kennedy &quot;Ich bin (ein) Berliner&quot;, but he coolly elected otherwise.  Instead, he insists that PA come to the table even while further settlements are being constructed.  If the PA does so, it will be complete surrender to Israel forever, Palestinian life will corrode and disappear and future generations will have trouble understanding what all the fuss was about.  By requiring the unthinkable of any Palestinian organization, Obama solidifies his political clout in the US, Zionist, Jewish and Evangelicals will line up with him and his healthcare program will succeed.   Palestine will then have died so that the US could join the developed world of universal healthcare.  I think it&#039;s that simple.He had to give something and Palestine looked so hopeless anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pete &#8212;  I had a similar fantasy.  Obama has thrown Palestine under the train in order to build political capital domestically, for his domestic programs.  Clearly, he has chosen to be remembered for these programs &#8212; healthcare, jobs &#8212; rather than settling the ME nightmare.  He might have elected otherwise:  He might have elected to be the great foreign policy president, Nixon visiting commie China or Kennedy &#8220;Ich bin (ein) Berliner&#8221;, but he coolly elected otherwise.  Instead, he insists that PA come to the table even while further settlements are being constructed.  If the PA does so, it will be complete surrender to Israel forever, Palestinian life will corrode and disappear and future generations will have trouble understanding what all the fuss was about.  By requiring the unthinkable of any Palestinian organization, Obama solidifies his political clout in the US, Zionist, Jewish and Evangelicals will line up with him and his healthcare program will succeed.   Palestine will then have died so that the US could join the developed world of universal healthcare.  I think it&#8217;s that simple.He had to give something and Palestine looked so hopeless anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: ontogram</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ontogram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 17:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Brad --  Now look up &quot;evasion.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad &#8212;  Now look up &#8220;evasion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Brzezinski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Brzezinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ontogram:  --- hasbara ---

I have seen this term used frequently on this forum and others. From the context, I take it to mean:  &quot;An argument that people who bash Israel, right or wrong, cannot refute.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ontogram:  &#8212; hasbara &#8212;</p>
<p>I have seen this term used frequently on this forum and others. From the context, I take it to mean:  &#8220;An argument that people who bash Israel, right or wrong, cannot refute.&#8221;</p>
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