Comments on: The Choice for Israel – Civil war for peace or the end of Zionism? http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/ Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:34:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.40 By: Max http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4830 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:53:39 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4830 Alan,
What makes you this optimistic?

]]> By: Max http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4829 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:51:36 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4829 Alan,
The two scenarios you are describing (civil war for peace & end of Zionism), seem to me some forms of justice for Palestinians.
My fear is that something much worse is waiting to happen to Palestinians.
Lets imagine we are in year 2109. What if the situation in Palestine by then is like this:
Due to decades of Israeli settlement activities, and land grabbing, the space Palestinians are allowed, have had shrunk to some refugee camps and because of malnutrition and lack of medication, their population has been almost extinct. And the very few reminders of them are allowed to live in Israel, because they are too few to pose any threat to the Jewish state. Exactly what happened to native Americans.
By 2109 people around the world including Israelis will say, something really bad happened to Palestinians, but its already part of history and nobody can do anything about it. Exactly the way today nobody is asking Americans to go back to Europe and UK, and give the land back to native Americans. Its history, isn’t it?
I think this is what Israel is doing: prolong the struggle and make it impossible for justice to happen.

]]> By: HART: The Choice for Israel – Civil war for peace or the end of Zionism? http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4807 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:46:35 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4807 [...] by Alan Hart -  5 December 2009 [...]

]]> By: gerald spezio http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4805 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:39:00 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4805 Alan, I think that the Zionist Israeli lawyering/distortion connection is well worth our focus & exploitation.

Israeli has more lawyers per capita than any other place on the planet; but is the most illegal tribe to ever inhabit the planet.

The U.S. has more lawyers than any other place on the planet.

The U.S. Senate is has been bought by Israel – it is composed of 62% lawyers.

Very little is ever made of this glaring paradox – most lawyers; least LAW

]]> By: Mary http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4804 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:29:32 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4804 Israel deliberately allowed the settlements in the West Bank to flourish, knowing full well that they are illegal. It also knew that these settlements would eventually destroy any chance of a two-state solution. Netanyahu has agreed to a temporary “moratorium” on building more of these illegal encroachments on Palestinian land, but has declared openly that the theft will continue full swing once the freeze ends.

The Israeli public seems to have been conspicuously silent on this whole issue. Maybe because so many of them have finally caught on to Netanyahu’s agenda and are endorsing it. I can only hope that there would be enough dissent within the populace to make civil war a realistic possibility. The more likely scenario would be to push the Palestinians into a Third Intifada, which would mean that for Netanyahu, all bets are off.

I see that Israel is apoplectic over the probability of the UN dividing Jerusalem between them and the Palestinians. This cheers me up a bit.

]]> By: Joyce Carmichael http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4803 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:36:58 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4803 On my frequent trips to visit my family in Texas I am alwsys pleased to pass a sign at the roadside reading ‘Give Aid to Gaza Here.’ My daughter tells me that there is a mighty rise in people actively interested in the Palestine/Israel problem since the Gaza massacre nearly two years ago. Much education has been delivered and assimilated and all of this in the most staid and conserfvative state in America. Very hearetening.

]]> By: syed mehdi hasan ashraf http://www.alanhart.net/the-choice-for-israel-civil-war-for-peace-or-the-end-of-zionism/comment-page-1/#comment-4801 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:13:12 +0000 http://www.alanhart.net/?p=1076#comment-4801 Provided the contents of peace formula is well explained showing clear picture of what is at stake & what benifits to achieve then i do not think removing settlers would be difficult.
A yes in referendum will defenitely give suport for any action taken against the setlers to the politicians but will not help in mind making of setllers in leaving the sttlement.A substantial monetary incentive coupled with benefits of peace with neighbours could do the trick for achieving peaceful removal of settelers.

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