9/11: Open letter & challenge to ADL’s Abe Foxman

Anonymous:

September 8th, 2011 at 4:58 am

Thanks Alan for gutting the ADL slurs and smears. I communicate with my friends who are Jews and I get back ADL talking points “6 million” “you don’t believe there was a Holocaust” “are you anti-Semitic”—I have some useful responses now thanks to you.

James S.:

September 8th, 2011 at 5:53 am

Alan Hart’s words reflect truth coming from passion. Nevertheless
he is a seeker and spreader of true knowledge, unlike propaganda.

Ahmed Asgher:

September 8th, 2011 at 5:55 am

What is the difference between anti-Semitic and Islamophobic? The former is a crime/taboo but the latter is scholastic.

Hannah Priestley:

September 8th, 2011 at 6:09 am

Dear Mr Hart,

I commend you upon your cogent open letter and your courage in considering the compelling case that the destruction of the WTC and other buildings was in fact a controlled demolition. Regarding this, the work of David Ray Griffin is definitely worth reading.

Thank you for your high quality work and for sharing it online. I shall be ordering your three volume book set and look forward to reading it very much.

A very small point if I may. In the interesting passage you’ve quoted from Harkabi, it reads as if only the first indented paragraph is from Harkabi, and that the second is not part of the quote?

Once again thank you.

Hannah

Howard T. Lewis III:

September 8th, 2011 at 6:56 am

More to the point, as I see it, is not the difference between zionism and judaism, which are basically the same except one shoves it in your face and demands you accept it while the other remains ‘forever persecuted’. let it be known that my jewish friends and i growing up together got along just fine until the word from upstairs came down that we would part our ways.

It was not until years later did I find out why we had to part. I was not jewish and therefore a goy. I thought it was because I smelled bad. My dad was the best cook of all my friends’ parents and I figured jealousy of this avocation stung the soul as it embraced the nostrils. I did not know of the book of Sanhedrin, or the rest.

What is hidden within the pages of that book alone is enough to solicit prison time in most societies. And I am glad that is so.

When I wake up to the annoying sound of a neighbor’s weed eater at 6AM on Saturday, I curse the son of a bitch and roll over and go back to sleep, at the same time blessing them, knowing I need not watch my back or my investments or anything else when the fellow is at work or play. And I God bless him for it.

We know who loaded those WTC buildings, and you can forget the reason why they did it. Its not enough. Millions are dead because of the exploitation of the blood sacrifice that day. And billions of dollars of hard-earned savings were stolen. America apparently does not care if it is dying of disease. They came here for the gravy. Not the stuff of warriors. Even worse, Israel has proven itself to be the promiseed land of organized crime.

Terry:

September 8th, 2011 at 7:26 am

Abe Foxman is considered a racist crank even by Jews. He does not talk for Jews nor does he have any interest in the well-being of Jews. His religion is money and hate. He is a tool of the Zionist criminals. People like Abe Foxman are the exact same type as the German Nazi.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/adl/adl/abe-foxman-a-disgrace-to-my-religion.htm

Mohamed Salem:

September 8th, 2011 at 7:29 am

Bravo for your courage!

Tom Fallon:

September 8th, 2011 at 8:10 am

A very courageous article,thank you for having the guts to print it. America needs much more of that type of “guts”. I would think that a solid month,or less,of HONEST reporting about israel and it’s zionists maniacs would see them dealt the justice they have long avoided. Good luck and watch your “six”.

Chris Crookes:

September 8th, 2011 at 8:58 am

One thought. You suggest 9/11 was a plot allowed to happen by Mossad and Neo-cons in America to take out the man who “…represented the only foreseeable potential Arab challenge to Greater Israel’s continued military domination of the whole Arab world. He had to be removed… by falsely claiming that Iraq was implicated in the 9/11 attack”
Wouldn’t they have done a better job of implicating him and Iraq in the attack then? The evidence for that is so non-existent that this does rather undermine this suggestion.

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Michael J Volz:

September 8th, 2011 at 10:48 am

Thanks Alan Hart for having the courage to state the facts publicly
and for directing them at one of the biggest problems standing in the way of truth, Abe Foxman of The Defamation League.

If other mainstream journalists would do the same we would be well on our way to solving the problem which is destroying the economic and political health of the world.

Mike

Karon von Gerhke-Thompson:

September 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am

An excellent rebuttal. I liked it enough to e-mail a copy to Colonel Patrick Lang, retired director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, for him to write an analysis of the dialectic in your analysis of Judaism v Zionism to publish on his website, A Committee of Correspondence, to invite debate among the many members of the intelligentsia who contribute to his website. There is a synergism between you. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/

I also took the liberty of copying R. James Woolsey, former DCI of the CIA and a spokesman for the Zionist lobby in Washington, to keep it balanced, i.e., to challenge him. It seemed appropriate as Mr. Woolsey is notorious for replacing his name tag at public events with his IQ, two points above Einstein!

I am respectfully, gratefully yours,

Karon von Gerhke-Thompson
Alexandria, VA

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From: Ksvgt1@aol.com
To: ismoot@turcopolier.com
CC: woolsey_jim@bah.com
Sent: 9/8/2011 6:06:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: The Dialectic in Alan Hart's Judaism v Zionism

Colonel Patrick Lang

Dear Colonel Lang:

Your readers and contributors to A Committee of Correspondence would undoubtedly benefit from your analysis of the dialectic in Alan Hart’s Judaism v Zionism.

As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 is upon us, the timing could not be more propitious. The Arab Spring, where democracy is viewed as the new euphemism for the expansion of American imperialism, the New World Order G. H. W. Bush envisaged after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union, is not as it seems. At no time in history has the need been greater to break the juggernaut of the silence of the intelligentsia on an issue that is paramount to the survival of our nation and our allies, West and East!

Karon von Gerhke-Thompson

CC: R. James Woolsey (Courtesy Copy to keep it balanced!)

Walter:

September 8th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

antiGENTILISM is the cause of so-called “antisemitism”. Humanity did not invent “antisemitism” from thin air, and then wait thousands of years for a Jew to come along so they could “hate” him for absolutely no reason. Jews came along and codified hatred of ALL NON-Jews in their beliefs, as is thoroughly documented elsewhere. Now whenever a NON-Jew acts or speaks in SELF-DEFENSE, the Jews yell “antisemitism”. Jew have to quit their HATE of the rest of HUMANITY, and “antisemitism” will dissipate. Jews must “recognize” the HUMAN and SPIRITUAL EQUALITY of all NON-Jews. Maybe those GENOCIDES the Bible THEY wrote and brag about, created some “animosity”?? Or the fact that Israel murders GOYIM/Palestinian/GENTILE CHILDREN in such a methodical manner, on such a regular basis, with such deliberate design, that it must be concluded that Israel is engaging in RITUAL SACRIFICE.
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Judaism is neither a race or a religion, it is Xenophobic Tribalism.
XENOPHOBIC: n.
A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
TRIBALISM: n.
1. The organization, culture, or beliefs of a tribe.
2. A strong feeling of identity with and loyalty to one’s tribe or group.
Under Xenophobic Tribalism anyone who is not a Jew is a THREAT to Jews.
Therefore ALL GOYIM, GENTILES,SHISHAS, are to be viewed and dealt with as THREATS.

Using One's Noodle:

September 8th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

I listen to Abe talk about 911 and think only the pure thoughts he supports- and then the overwhelming facts get in the way;

And I listen to Abe more about Israeli treatment of the Palestinians and think only the pure thoughts he supports and the overwhelming facts get in the way;

And then I listen to Abe more about the immorality of the Arabs and think only the nasty, racist thoughts he supports and the overwhelming facts get in the way;

And then I analyze all those facts about Arab terrorists in the United States and the demonizaton of the Arab-American community and the overwhelming facts of FBI (the FBI reportedly works closely with the ADL on a number of false flag projects including painting Swastikas on synagogues for political gain) involvement in entrapping mentally challenged and disabled Arabs in “homegrown terrorist plots” to make a political point get in the way.

And then I ask myself does Abe not know these facts or is he conveniently making up facts, forgetting facts or lying about facts in order to establish a narrative for political and/or personal gain?

And so I conclude, after reviewing the facts, that Abe is a puppet, a stooge or liar. He certainly isn’t helpful or a good American citizen. He undermines our society and constitution every chance he gets.

Now those are facts, conclusions and opinions which Abe would label viciously anti-semitic, simply because Abe happens to be Jewish.

One last question:

Abe, do you have Al Sharpton as a consultant on speed dial?

Amerikagulag:

September 8th, 2011 at 2:42 pm

The Torah and the Talmud are weapons of mass destruction and their adherents are enemies of humanity.

Chase:

September 8th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

One of the things that is not being addressed is the misnomer that is the term “Anti-Semitism”. The Jews/Zionists that exist throughout much of the world today are converts. They are not now, nor have they ever been, descendants of the Biblical Jews. Speaking Hebrew does not make them Semitic any more than my 4 years of High School French makes me a Parisian.

On the other hand, the Palestinians, in language and in blood, have been Semites predating the Bible. Many Palestinians, and other Arabs that speak Semitic languages, have relatives that are, or were, practitioners of Judaism. They are the true Semites, and to demonize and hate them would be true Anti-Semitism.

carroll price:

September 8th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

I appreciate your efforts, but the Jew vs Zionist argument contains a major flaw in that it does not acknowledge the fact that Jews have been subverting nations for thousands of years, long before Zionism became a convenient buzzword.

whiteyward:

September 8th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

The actions of Nationalist are always threatening to neighbors. As the effects of the Israeli world domination progresses all truth gets lost and only the Myths get repeated.

My real name:

September 8th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

Two questions, which I would appreciate being addressed –

1) If Zionism is understood as the right to self-determination for Jews, then what of anti-zionism? I know of no other movement which has as its raison d’etre the denial of self-determination. In this sense, I see anti-zionism as objective anti-semitism.

What’s your response? What is your position on Jewish self-determination, assuming you consider yourself anti-Zionist? Are there any other people to whom you would deny self-determination?

2) You say “the Twin Towers, like Building Seven, were pre-wired for controlled demolition.”

You understand both collapses of the Towers began at the exact level the planes hit. Twice. The collapses initiated at the point of maximum damage from the impact of speeding, fuel-laden jet passenger planes. The impacts were followed by explosions and severe, unfought fires. This was all at the exact level at which the collapses initiated – and which, in your view, were ‘rigged with explosives’.

How did the conspirators know at which level the planes would strike (twice)?

How could explosives and their triggering mechanism survive the impacts (twice)?

How could the explosives and their triggering mechanism survive the fireball and ensuing fires (twice)?

What is the evidence this happened? There’s none. So one wonders why you simply assume it.

Noting your assumption, and your readiness to invoke MOSSAD and Israeli involvement – without the least bit of evidence – I suggest to you that you are expressing your (maybe unconscious) objective anti-semitism. If you had good evidence to finger MOSSAD for this particular crime, fair enough. But you don’t. So there must be another reason you choose to go from talking about supposed anti-zionism direct to 911 and Israeli involvement. The most obvious cause for your reaching such conclusions sans evidence, is anti-semitism.

Look forward to your reply.

carroll price:

September 8th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

My real name. I think I can answer your questions. As to the 1st question, there are at least two religious groupsin this country(Amish and Mennonites)who, like Jews keep separate from mainstream society. Yet to my knowledge there is no such thing in this country as anti-Amishism or anti-Mennonitism. The only individuals who have ever persecuted the Amish and Mennonites were kings and despots who did so because both groups refuse to bow down and serve rulers and despots of any sort. It therefore appears that a group separating itself from society has little to do with whether or not that group is despised and persecuted. So why are the Amish and Mennonites admired and respected by practically everyone while Jews are generally distrusted and despised? I would assume that it is because the Amish and Mennonite people are honest, hardworking individuals who make a living by honest toil rather than by banking frauds and financial speculation as has been the case with Jews since the Middle Ages. As to the demolition of the WTC buildings, it is not true that the demolition sequence started at or below the point of impact. If you look at the videos of the collapse, you can plainly see that the upper sections of both buildings (above the point) disintegrated as they fell toward the point of entry, so that there was never any hesitation or pause due to the upper sections contacting the lower sections, as would have been the case had these sections remained intact. Further proof lies in the fact that the debris pile of either building, contained no upper (undamaged) section that should have been seen sitting intact upon the debis pile. It is simply ludicrous for anyone to suggest that the buildings (which had been designed to withstand such damage) fell into their footprints due to relatively minor physical damage and the modest fires that followed.

Courageous Nature:

September 8th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

Dear My Real Name,
reply to question 1;
The right to Self Determination for Jews is not Zionism. Self Determination is a separate and perfectly legitimate set of rights that must meet the same standards as any other rights of self determination, that is it must conform to the concepts of Human Rights under UN mandate. No more no less.

From above, “ZIONISM is a sectarian, colonial-like nationalism which created a state for some Jews in the Arab heartland mainly by terrorism and ethnic cleansing…”

Self Determination’ “Acknowledging that the Charter of the United Nations, the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (2) and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights,2 as well as the Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action,(3) affirm the fundamental importance of the right to self-determination of all peoples, by virtue of which they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development,” as quoted from the UN Declaration of Human Rights found here;
http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/en/drip.html

With regard to question 2;
The impact point of the planes is irrelevant because the trigger system could initiate at any floor selected by the trigger operator. Similar demolition matrix require computer controlled sequencing of shape and cutter charges, which could easily have been configured to begin at any point in the matrix designated by the initiator or trigger operator.

With regard to your final assertion, you may find well researched discussions of Mossad method and opportunity here:
http://www.warbydeception.com
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
http://youtu.be/JZNQq7XBLwc

Please accept my offering of response in the spirit of peace and the hope for a world free of petty nationlism.

My real name:

September 8th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

Thanks for replies but you really haven’t dealt with

1) – the issue of self-determination. All people are entitled to self-determination…..zionism is Jewish self-determination…..so on the face of it to be anti-zionist is being against Jewish self-determination. I don’t think this has been properly addressed.

2) the collapses certainly did start (twice) at the (two different) impact zones. How would explosives and their triggering mechanism survive? There is no answer to that imo – and moreover – where is the evidence to postulate it in the first place? I believe a teapot floating round Jupiter did it. There’s no more nor less evidence for it than there is for explosives & controlled demolition. If there were, you (and Alan Hart) and many others would mention it, but you don’t – because it simply does not exist. So why believe it?

If you make a claim – you have to back it up. Where’s the direct, positive evidence for demolition? Nowhere.

And yet the writer mentions all this in a piece about anti-semitism versus anti-zionism…….why? If there’s no evidence, then what is it doing in this article?

The fact there is no evidence to point to demolition – and yet the writer fingers Israel for responsibility severely undermines the writer’s claims about anti-zionism versus anti-semitism.

An anti-semite would today invariably be anti-zionist. It is up to those who are not anti-semites to make the supposed distinction. Grinding against ‘zionism’ based on unfounded beliefs about Israeli responsibility for 911 belies an anti-semitism. What else would you call it?

If someone rails against blacks, say, because they believe without foundation that they invariably commit crime, rape and whatever else…we would uncontroversially condemn it as racial prejudice – because the beliefs are unsupported by the facts.

Yet when this happens with supposed anti-zionist attacks on Israel, it is controversial…..it’s supposed to be “protecting Israel” etc blah blah blah. What a lot of tosh.

If you are going to go whining about being considered anti-semitic when you’re “really” anti-zionist, don’t go making unfounded claims about Israeli involvement in 911? You have zero evidence for it…..but you make the claims. What can we call it, if not anti-semitism? Stupidity?

My real name:

September 8th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

Carroll Price said: “If you look at the videos of the collapse, you can plainly see that the upper sections of both buildings (above the point) disintegrated as they fell toward the point of entry”
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Why did they ‘fall toward the point of entry”? Because that’s where the collapse initiated. QED.

Nabil Cronful:

September 9th, 2011 at 1:34 am

Excellent piece Alan.

Bravo.

Nabil

Tony Purkis:

September 9th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

yes, of course they were involved; but the conspiracy seems to be sucking you into a spurious debate – suggest you cut loose from the anti-Semite bullshit and focus on new exposures; let’s move on.

Tom Mysiewicz:

September 9th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

The official 9-11 story has too many holes in it. Like Cinderella, the foot of the Mosssad seems to fit into the slipper. Israel certainly benefitted from the event. We have the impossible collapse of three steel-frame buildings–one not even hit or burned. (Perhaps the last-minute cruise missile strike on the Pentagon was cooked up to account for the plane shot down in Pennsylvania probably originally destined for WTC-7.) We have the loss of 80% of the buildings mass as fine dust below 10 microns–characteristuic of demolition. We have plane crashes and small fires–possibly synchronized to mask smoke from thermite charges used to soften structural steel main beams over a 20 minute period. We have the impossibility of conventional demolition charges because 10,000 or more would have been necessary. No, Virginia, spontaneous collapse buildings don’t neatly collapse into their footprint. Certainly not three times in a row! (My late dad, an assistant to an NYPD deputy chief inspector once told me–based on the best engineering information–their fear was that if one of the structures did fall it would break off and cause a domino-effect collapse of skyscrapers in lower Manhattan.) High levels of tritium were detected by the National Bureau of Standards (attributed to red-dot Federal gunsights on the premises! Ha, ha.) And, no metal was released even for commemorative medals. Why? As someone once considered knowledgeable on radiation processing of materials, I can tell you that all steel of terrestrial origin (except steel from nuclear reactors, steel exposed to nuclear blasts, or steel that has been in outer space for an extended period) has a characteristic isotope signature that does not change over tens of thousands of years. Meteorites, for instance, can be tested to show extraterresterial origins. Were so-called mini nukes used? I can’t think of another reason we didn’t have a 1000-foot-high pile of debris from a simple collapse!

My real name:

September 9th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

what’s the point in offering comments when

1) you don’t personally respond
2) you don’t publish them

Pathetic. Forget it.

My real name:

September 10th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

No replies, no responses.

What an empty shallow pointless blog.

Angela:

September 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

Thank you for having the courage to speak the truth. You are my beacon of sincerety in this sea of deceit and conflicting information. Your standing is such that your words can persuade even those who believe the intentions of our rulers too malicious to be conceivable from their fellow man – a serene naivety we regrettably cannot afford in these times. May peace be with you and your words resound around the world.

Ronald Douglas Kennedy:

September 11th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Greetings Alan Hart: regarding your thought’s on Mr. Abe Foxman. And how he could be a positive force, “What these two peoples could do together in peace and partnership is the stuff that dreams are made of.” I also state Below how he could be a positive help in returning our national FIVE Pointed Star to the seats in the US. House of Representatives .
Be well Safe Travels Ron PS. a bratwurst, mustard & flip top sounds great— Army 3 Armored Division—Fulda Gap 1962

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/08/pro-israeli-group-calls-pro-american-veterans-group-extremists/comment-page-1/#comment-320068
The ADL, a non-government Zionist agent organization embedded in the USA posing as a philanthropic group, calls Veterans Today out as Extremists
Veterans Today responds and calls ADL a “threat to U.S. citizenry everywhere”

by Debbie Menon

Ronald Douglas Kennedy
September 9, 2011 – 12:06 pm
Will Abe Foxman an American Help restore the United States National Five Pointed Star’s to the sides of each seat in our House wear our Congress Men and Ladies meet to work for the betterment of American’s, With His Anti- Defamation League. How was our National Five Pointed Star Defamed in 1949, and replaced with a Foreign Six Pointed Star With out a Vote or fight, of its surrender to Foreign Lobbyists?

Forwarded Message:
Subj: RE: Six Pointed Star on Sides of Seats. Request for information [ohps]
Date: 9/6/2006 1:30:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: Felicia.Wivchar@mail.house.gov
To: Otrkennedy@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Dear Mr. Kennedy,

Thank you for contacting the Office of the Clerk.

There are unfortunately no published images that show a detail of the stars at the joints of the seats in the current House Chamber, on the internet or in print.

The current style of furniture was installed in 1949, and was manufactured by a New York furniture company called Knip, which is no longer in business. There are drawings for both five and six -pointed brass stars associated with the design of the furniture, but there is no documentation explaining or mentioning the use of the six-pointed version.

Office of the Clerk

Tom Mysiewicz:

September 12th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

“My real name” points out the importance of “Jewish self determination”. I, too, support this goal for Jews who want it. However, this should be done on land these Jews legally own (i.e., not land stolen from the inhabitants) and with money they earned lawfully (i.e., not mine). These are the problem I have with the current Israeli state–a real Zionist (like Uri Avnery) should see that the current military-political situation thoroughly clouds the experiment of producing Jews who are independent and self sufficient in their own state.

My real name:

September 12th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

What’s the point in having a blog but never publishing or responding to the comments?

What a waste of time. One-way isn’t dialogue. But you know that, and that’s the point, isn’t it? Pathetic.

My real name:

September 13th, 2011 at 3:31 am

But Tom, you are saying if conditions existed such that there was no need of Jewish self-determination, then you would support self-determination.

You’re saying if the conditions brought about by self-determination already existed, then you would support self-determination…..tautology.

And one could direct your argument at other historical examples, such as USA. Why support America’s existence then? Because it was “a long time ago”? Is that really good enough?

You’re also ignoring UN resolutions founding Israel and supposing that Israel was formerly “owned” by someone else. And I guess you don’t mean the British. In fact there are conditions that better distinguish Israel as legitimate than the USA. So why isn’t the argument about the USA rather than Israel aka Zionism aka jewish self-determination?

Anyway, the writer says he is “passionately anti-Zionist”. That means being passionately anti-Jewish self-determination.

Which other nation’s self-determination does the writer oppose? None, only Jews……so pardon me, but there’s really only one thing to call that imo…..anti-semitism. What else can it be?

It isn’t about religion, because Islamic states exist – nations which declare themselves Islamic, and Arab even. Is the writer protesting that too? No. So….what’s the beef? The beef is that the writer opposes Jewish self-determination and nobody else’s. That’s objective anti-semitism……taking a stand against Jews pursuing the same things which when pursued by other people raises no objection.

Nasreddeen:

September 24th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

“My realname” wrote:

“… It isn’t about religion, because Islamic states exist – nations which declare themselves Islamic, and Arab even….”

There is no one islamic state nowadays. No one! And surely not the oligarchic state of Saudi Arabia backed by USA and Israel.

There is a huge difference between Islam and Zionism. The rules and values of Islam are open to every human being. Being muslim or not! This is not the case of Talmudism, the religion of zionists. One can not be a jewish if the mother is not jewish. This is the essence of genetic racism: the talmudists believe that the prophethood lies in the genes. That was the reason why they rejected Jesus son of Mary as the Messiah (Peace be upon him and her): she claimed the baby had no father so the talmudists couldn’t trace back the genetic ascendance of Jesus. Almost the same case happend some years before with John The Baptist: they couldn’t trust his elderly parents. And so .. and so …

To be arab is sollely a matter of speaking arabic. No more no less. In North Africa, people are all berbers physically and culturally different from “arabs” but they still claim to be “arabs” because they speak arabic and proud to be muslim and linked with the great islamic culture and civilisation.

As for Israel: we can’t be an israeli if we are not from jewish descent. The zionist state is based on racism. QED.

Nasreddeen:

September 24th, 2011 at 2:51 pm

My real name wrote:

“What’s the point in having a blog but never publishing or responding to the comments?”

You have the answer right under your eyes!