A defeat for Israel…?
Another interesting question is this: What impact if any will Netanyahu’s acceptance of a ceasefire on more or less Egypt and Hamas’s terms have on his chances of emerging from Israel’s January election with a stronger than ever and unchallengeable coalition majority? According to a snap poll taken very soon after the ceasefire announcement, 70 per cent of Israel’s Jews said they were opposed to the deal, meaning, presumably, that Netanyahu was wrong to agree to it. If that is and remains the view of a majority, we can expect to see Netanyahu aligning himself even more closely with the forces of the truly fascist right between now and the election.
In a best case scenario the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas will last and life for the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip will improve, but the fundamental problem will remain – Israel’s on-going colonization and ethnic cleansing by stealth of the occupied West Bank, the proof that Zionism is not remotely interested in peace on terms the Palestinians could accept.
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maryam:
November 22nd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
The big difference now is that the US has been replaced by Egypt as the main force steering relations between Hamas and Israel. Morsi, while aware of the need to maintain security, will not abandon his principles, among which is his loyalty to Palestine.
Obama and Clinton didn’t even join the game until the 9th inning. Obama called the attack on Gaza a “crisis du jour” as he and Hillary stuffed themselves with Thai food in Bangkok. It gave Hillary a chance to take credit for Morsi’s hard work, go out with a bang, and get the AIPAC backing she will need to run for POTUS in 2016.
Rehmat:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 am
Some American commentors has called the cease-fire as Obama’s “sweet revenge”!
Personally, I believe, the US-Israel latest fiasco has accomplished in stitching together a divided leadership and people together around a common cause. It has brought pro-USrael Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayaad closer to anti-Assad-Hizballah Khaled Meshaal and pro-Iran Ismail Haniyah.
http://rehmat1.com/2012/11/22/israel-mission-accomplished-really/
maryam:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:06 am
What? Haniyeh is not pro-Iran. Hamas has ended its support for Assad. Morsi is now endeavoring to bring Hamas and Fatah together to unify the Palestinians politically, as a united front against Israel.
Chris:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:10 pm
This table (found on the Diaspora social networking site) on the correlation of Israeli attacks on Gaza with Israeli elections is quite interesting. It suggests that the attack–like previous assaults–was politically motivated. However, if 70% of Israelis think the ceasefire was wrong it could backfire on Netanyahu.
http://manchesterstopwar.org/must-see/318-attacks-on-gaza-politically-motivated.html
See also Stop the War Coalition’s John Rees on Gaqza:
http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/gaza-israel-and-the-arab-revolutions-why-this-time-its-different
Rehmat:
November 23rd, 2012 at 1:37 pm
maryam – wake up. After the cease-fire announcement in Cairo – not only Haniyeh praised Iran’s decades-old support – but even Meshaal shamefully acknowledged Iran’s military and financial contribution to make what Hamas and Islamic Jihad is today.
Meshaal, a Jordanian citizen, showed his disloyalty toward a regime which protected and supported him for the last 11 years – during which Saudi, Qatari, Egyptian and Turkey refused to give him refuge. The reasons he has turned against Assad , is – the West has promised to installed him the first president of Jordan once all native Palestinian are expelled to Jordan as the new Palestine state.
How honest broker is Dr. Morsi? Just remember, he still has refused to visit Gaza or the west Bank – and maintain diplomatic relations with the anti-Arab Zionist regime.
The reality is dear – like Turks, Palestinians have been fooled by the western colonialists and their Arab poodles.
http://rehmat1.com/2012/11/20/hamas-betrayed-by-its-new-allies/
maryam:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Show me a link, Rehmat. A reputable one, not a blog post of someone’s opinion or a Jewish Zionist news source. They quote Haniyeh thanking Iran for the weapons. That is not the same as forming an alliance with Iran. Do you always engage in such illogical thought process?
maryam:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:38 pm
Also show me something that says Morsi “refuses to visit Gaza or the West Bank.”
Herman King:
November 23rd, 2012 at 2:55 pm
If Israelis don’t want war, why did they re-elect Netanyahu?
Mohamed Salem:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:36 pm
Mister Hanyah said in his victory speech that the main achievement of HAMAS – by it’s show of force by new missiles capabilities – is GAZA is now immune for ever from ground invasion by Zionists. I think that the lessons learned from this last war are still incomplete: for the second time(after 2006 war against HezboAllah) the war is transported within the Israel territory by small militia groups. When the Israel huge and high tech arsenal (both conventional and unconventional) can’t turns it’s enemies to act according according to it’s will it means that the future of the bases on which this country has founded it’s relations with it’s neighbors will be revised dramatically. It’s just a matter of time… Unless the Zionist political leadership is insane and unpredictable: in this last case this state has no future since it will implode.
Mohamed Salem:
November 23rd, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Rehmat! What’s the problem with Iran? It’s simple: when you give your petrol and money to the US you are good like the saudis. When you refuse you are demonized!!!
Rehmat:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:36 pm
@ Mohamed Salem – What a piece of Arab sectarian ignorance! America has not purchased Iranian oil for the last 30 years – and it has been forcing it allies to do the same by putting new sanctions every year. The problem with Iran is its presents an alternative to Arabs who have been living as colonial sheep for over 150 years.
@maryam – is Israel’s top English newspaper is a reliable source for you? If it’s – then read its November 21 headline: “Mohammed Morsi: Israel’s brother”.
Morsi was not the first choice of Muslim Brotherhood. He is not a Muslim scholar or a so-called “Islamist”. According to Islamic Sharia’h any Muslim who kills a fellow Muslim or a non-Muslim other than “self-defense” is a MUNAFQ.
Haniyeh visited Iran after Meshaal closed Hamas’ Damascus office for Qatari $250 million – against Meshaal’s pursuations. Standing next to Ahmadinejad, Haniyeh, had declared: “We will never recognize Israel as a state”. Read the Ney York Times, February 2012.
maryam:
November 23rd, 2012 at 8:43 pm
You still haven’t proven your points, Rehmat. I cannot make any sense of your thought process.
Rehmat:
November 24th, 2012 at 12:22 am
While Shimon Peres, Tony Blair, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Erdogan and Qatari Emir have heaped praise on Morsi – Israeli opposition leader Gen. Shaul Mofaz and Muslim Brotherhood top leader Mohammed Badie have Morsi-brokered cease-fire as treason.
http://rehmat1.com/2012/11/24/israel-egyptian-morsi-is-a-brother/
Mohamed Salem:
November 24th, 2012 at 9:58 am
Rehmat: very wise.
Before 1979 who tranformes Iran’s Chah into a plane carrier with the iranian money? Who open to Iran to the nuclear technology (FRAMATOME)in this period? Seems your culture is basic!!!
Fakhri:
November 24th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
The recent Israeli aggression against Gaza was unprovoked, contrary to what all the the not-so-honest media tried to peddle: put the blame at the Palestinians’ door. Only two days before targeting Hams’s military chief did Israeli artillery kill three children-including an eleven-month old baby.Hamas’s man was working on a cease-fire when he was assassinated.All three men of Israele’s cabinet announcing the cease-fire-i.e.Netanyahu,Barak and Liebermann, were using the aggression for a knock-on effect in the upcoming elections.But,if one is to believe face language, all looked disappointed. This was revealed in Netanyahu’s lingering threat that Israel would still punish any breach of the ceasefire; in Barak’s immoral boasting of killing 130 Palestinians( the real number was higher)to justify the indiscriminate rocketing which characterised the last two days of the aggression; and in Liebermann’s usual abrsive manner.Fact is, all of them knew that a land invasion would shatter what is left of their confidence(arrogance, that is)for,not only it would turn all world opinion again against them-for that would entail a large-scale massacre of Palestinian civilians- but it would also, ultimately, as in 2006,mean dozens of coffins travelling north.
And yes, with every other confrontation, death will be a two-way
traveller.Begin learnt it the hard way in 1982,the same Barak had a taste of it in 2000, and Olmert in 2006.
Rehmat:
November 25th, 2012 at 12:36 am
On November 23, Ibrahim al-Amin, editor-in-chief of Lebanese daily al-Akhbar, had warned the Palestinians and their foreign supporters about the US-Israeli plan in motion to demilitarize Islamic resistance groups by creating an Egyptian-lead Sunni block (Muslim Brotherhood, Saudi arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Fatah, Jordan and the Gulf sheikhdoms) against Iran-led Shia block (Islamic Revolution, Hizballah, Syria and Iraq on the margins).
“Hamas will have to choose between Iran and Egypt. If Iran could offer missiles and money, Egypt will offer immunity from Israeli attack, sovereignty over Gaza, and an open door to the world,” wrote Ibrahim al-Amin. Read full article here.
If Sunni-majority Hamas chose to join Egyptian block, it had to come hard on other resistance groups like pro-Iran Islamic Jihad and pro-Assad Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and even Fatah’s al-Aqsa Brigade. This will open the door to a civil war which would be Israel’s biggest dream come true.
http://rehmat1.com/2012/11/25/hamas-resistance-committed-to-rearming-itself/
David King:
November 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am
To my way of thinking, israel DID lose this confrontation.
The issue here, to me, appears to be time. Ersatz israel does not have indefinite time to take over Palestine. This event didn’t bring the zionists closer to their goal. They also alerted more of the global population to their activities. They added another straw to their back.
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