An Interview With Alan Hart
I would not have devoted five years of my life to work on a book with only limited academic appeal. I have written a book that can and should be read by all concerned and caring citizens everywhere, including and especially those who would not normally even think of buying a book on the subject. The unresolved struggle for Palestine has the potential to take us all to hell. And that’s why I insist that every man, woman and child on planet Earth has a stake in what is happening in the Holy Land, and thus a right and a need to know the truth about the causes of this conflict and how to stop the countdown to Armageddon. And let me, please, add this. One of the few men of our time I greatly admire is an American – Robert McGovern. He was a CIA analyst for 27 years and, on a daily basis, he briefed seven American Presidents from John F. Kennedy to George H.W. Bush. Ray is now associated with an organisation which seeks to advance the cause of “speaking truth to power”. I think there is also a great and urgent need to speak truth to the people. Which on Middle East matters is something our governments, particularly those in Washington and London, are not very good at, to say the very least… But my book is more than an epic story, which is thrilling, chilling, and ultimately inspirational, it has important messages for Gentiles and Jews.
So what is its main message for Gentiles?
First they must understand that there’s a profound difference between Jews and Judaism on the one hand, and Zionists and Zionism on the other. Because of the difference it is perfectly possible to be anti-Zionist – as, in fact, most Jews were prior to the obscenity of the Nazi holocaust – without being anti-Semitic (anti all Jews everywhere) in any way, shape or form, and without being anti-Israel as a state for some Jews inside its borders as they were on the eve of the 1967 war. Zionism doesn’t want the Gentile world to be aware of the distinction between Judaism and Zionism because, if it was, Zionism would lose what I call its blackmail card – its ability to suppress informed and honest debate by asserting that all criticism of Israel’s behaviour, which is sometimes that of a terrorist state, is a manifestation of anti-Semitism.
You explain this very well in your book but why do you think it’s so important for Gentiles to have this understanding now?
Anti-Semitism is on the rise again. The irony, and the tragedy in-the-making, is that this sleeping giant has been re-awakened primarily by the Zionist state’s behaviour – Israel’s appalling self-righteousness, its arrogance of power and its contempt for international law, UN resolutions and the human and political rights of others.
You seem to be suggesting that Gentiles should not blame the Jews who live among them – the majority of Jews in the world – for what some Jews (those you describe in the book as “gut-Zionists”) are doing in Israel/Palestine?
I am not suggesting that, I am saying it explicitly. But there’s also a message in my book for the Jews of the world (diaspora Jews). It is that only they can call and hold Israel to account and, by so doing, prevent the monster of anti-Semitism from going on the rampage again and stop the countdown to Armageddon. How can they do that’? By making common cause with the rational half (more or less) of their co-religionists in Israel – for the purpose of de-Zionising Israel, by which I mean turning it from being a Zionist state into a Jewish state; a state in which the most powerful force would be the moral principles of Judaism. Such a state would be one capable of making peace on terms which the Palestinians (and actually most Arabs and Moslems everywhere) could accept.
Why do you say that only the Jews of the world can call and hold Israel to account?
The short answer, for reasons which are documented in detail and have their necessary global context in my book, is that nobody else can.
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