Even The New York Times doesn’t believe Netanyahu.
The question arising is this: What is most likely to happen when Israel’s leaders come to the conclusion that the occupied and oppressed Palestinians will not accept crumbs from Zionism’ table (even if a puppet Palestinian leadership is urging them to do so)?
My guess is that Zionism’s in-Israel leaders will go for OPTION 3 as identified by Sharon.
Message to the NYT’s editorial writers - please think about that.
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mary:
March 29th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
You’re right, Alan. Every action the Israelis have taken in the last several weeks has been so blatantly provocative that one is forced to think that they are hoping to trigger a Third Intifada, or worse, as a ruse to take the focus off the massive settlement project in East Jerusalem and to clear the Palestinians out of the West Bank. This is why Netanyahu has flipped off Clinton and Obama, has directed very aggressive and violent actions against protesters in the West Bank and Jerusalem, and is now engaged in renewed military attacks in Gaza (and starting rumors of an intention to re-occupy).
Martina Tamburrino:
March 30th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
It might look as though both Israel and America are successfully deceiving the world of politics into believing they really are committed to a 2-state solution. But that cannot be true. Politicians and leaders, smart as they are in exposing political lies (when it suits them) must be aware that neither the U.S. nor Israel are serious in their alleged commitment to a viable and just solution. But our western leaders will never challenge the Israeli lie – not in the near future, not as long as the U.S. ostensibly gives credit to the 2-state lie. If the U.S. were serious about the issue, they would have long ago challenged their beloved Zionist ally to lay-out a concrete plan for a 2-state solution, meaning a blue print, on paper, that lines-out borders. But that is exactly what the U.S. is afraid of demanding – for political reasons that Alan has very clearly analyzed in some of his articles, and because Palestinian land is shrinking by the day, so that imposing the pre-’67 borders would imply nothing short of a world conflict. So the big lie about a “Palestinian State” and an alleged “peace process” goes on and our governments comply, knowing they can count on the media and on western citizens’ gullibility.
For the time being, Zionists know there is no political will to stop them in their criminal tracks. So what would keep them from choosing the above OPTION 3. The Gaza massacre is the ominous proof that Israel would (again) pull it off. And because of the shrewd way they operate, the Zionists will be successful in blaming it on the Palestinians.
That’s the way it might look right now. Yet for those who watch events closely, signs show that pressure is mounting in the western world. Before too long, governments will face peoples’ anger – it is inevitable. We can only hope it will not come too late for the People of Palestine. It is imperative for each one of us to build awareness.
And American Jews who believe in U.S.’s and Israel’s good faith should challenge the J-Street lobby to lay-out their own specific plan for a 2-state solution, given that is what they declare to support.
mary:
March 30th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
It’s too late for a two-state solution. There isn’t enough of the West Bank left to make a Palestinian state out of. The Zionists will not relinquish any of the illegal settlements they have built, and their frenzy to build more indicates clearly that they have no interest in peace. This is all in keeping with the Zionist agenda irrespective of who is in power in Israel.
Israel is not afraid of the US or of Obama. No reason to be, with all those members of Congress on AIPAC’s payroll.
rosemary spiota:
March 30th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
If you read Gilad Atzmon’s latest post you will see that Netanyahu is being forced by his extremist partners, who care not at all for the US or anyone outside their narrow ideas, to go for option 3, quickly before Iran gets the bomb. Nasty if true.
mary:
March 30th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Martina, in your comment you state what the Zionists should do, what Obama should do, even what J Street should do – but not a word about what the Palestinians should do. Have you forgotten them?
The time for a two-state solution is done. The Zionists, aided and abetted by the US, the EU and the Arab states, have advanced their agenda to the point where it’s too late. As Alan has said in his book and in his articles, it’s time to stop the Zionist juggernaut before the middle east explodes. The one-state solution is the only viable choice except that the Israelis have no intention of losing their “Jewish State” by making Arab Muslims and Christians into citizens and giving them equal rights. At this point it appears that the Zionists are gearing up for a violent conflagration with the objective of killing as many Palestinians as possible, and driving the rest into Jordan and Gaza. They’re pushing for a war with Iran to keep Iran busy and disengaged from any possibility of helping the Palestinians. The Zionists are getting quite close to persuading the US to do the dirty work of starting this proxy war so that they can get down to business and finish their annexation of “eretz Israel.”
martina tamburrino:
March 31st, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Hello Mary, thanks for reading my comment.
The point I was making (or trying to make) is this. Western citizens and Diaspora Jews have been deceived into believing that: A) a 2-state solution is a fair solution for all concerned and the only possible one; B) that the 2-state solution is viable; C) that there is a political will to implement it. All three points are a lie. And political leaders are aware of it. But the collective western political body publicly chooses to support this “fair solution” – and that solution only – because it is the one Israel officially declares to support so it can show its good will for a “peace process”.
To expose the big lie would really be quite simple, to my mind.
Israel – as well as the J-Street lobby (officially in favor of a 2-state solution) should be challenged to draft a plan with a map that outlines borders to accommodate 2 separate and sovereign political entities within the land of Palestine. Of course the U.S. never could and never will demand any such “proof” of their viciously imposed ally, knowing there is no viable plan to be shown, as there is no contiguous Palestinian territory left for an independent state. Neither will any other major power ever publicly challenge Israel’s good faith. Israel’s politicians know they can count on going unchallenged by the world’s leaders, because of political interests. And they know that for the time being they can count on the overall public opinion to believe in the alleged fairness and willingness for a 2-state solution, as most citizens have no idea to what lengths Israel is prepared to go in order to avoid a pre-’67 borders arrangement (which would be the end of Zionism). For all these reasons, and because Zionists are pathologically reckless to the point of jeopardizing their own (criminal) mission, they will ultimately behave according to OPTION 3 as from Alan’s article.
Of course there is ONLY 1 possible fair solution that would account for justice: the one all Palestinians rightfully claim and many support, though it is never publicly expressed, for it is a taboo. Unless there will be clear signs of public opinion shifting in favor of the Palestinians’ cause, no Palestinian authority will dare to publicly state their view for what is the only just arrangement, lest they face public rage for wishing away “helpless Jewish Israel”.
I’m sure, no regular reader of Alan’s posts will ever support a 2-state solution, unless that is the wish of the People of Palestine.
P.S. I enjoyed your evocative expression “I can only hope that this latest spectacle (AIPAC) is the equivalent of the band playing on the Titanic as the ship sunk”.
mary:
March 31st, 2010 at 6:32 pm
“Israel – as well as the J-Street lobby (officially in favor of a 2-state solution) should be challenged to draft a plan with a map that outlines borders to accommodate 2 separate and sovereign political entities within the land of Palestine”
Good heavens, why should Israel and J Street (An American Jewish lobby) be in charge of that? Are you serious??? Where, I ask again, is the Palestinian input on this?
If only this “Titanic” would hit a second iceberg!
martina tamburrino:
April 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Yes, Mary, I’m very serious about what I said. Any official entity publicly suggesting that an independent Palestinian state can be implemented “next” to Israel has to be exposed as a dangerous and irresponsible liar. Because what they are hiding from public view is the fact that Israel is not willing, and will not be persuaded, to peacefully withdraw from occupied land. And that Israel has acquired nuclear power to avoid being pushed in a corner.
Anyone officially supporting a 2-state solution deliberately ignores Israel’s ruthless determination to pursue the Zionist conquest scheme AT ANY COST. Israel will never give-up stolen land without a violent fight – one that would result in devastating consequences for all, including Jews. This is one of the reasons why a political stalemate has been going on for long in the Palestine dispute, meant to stave-off a dangerous confrontation.
The way I see it, the U.S. is currently preoccupied that Israel keep up the pretence for a commitment to the alleged peace-process. The U.S. has no other choice but to play the zero-sum game – for now. And I suspect Obama may secretly wish for American citizens to wake-up and pressure lawmakers to stop acting in the interest of an “ally” with very questionable motives.
On the one hand, most Jews do not feel the heat as they have been shielded from public confrontation ever since the end of WW2. Yet they would be well advised to take a stance, as in the long run their safety and standing in the world depend on a concrete and just solution for the Palestinian People. I’m sure, many are aware of it.
On the other hand, most of our western citizens, though genuinely concerned about the Palestinian People’s fate, are too distracted or un-informed to be aware of the 2-state illusion they have been deceitfully led to support. It is imperative for lies to be publicly exposed, so that the Palestinian People will be able to tell the world what solution they wish for themselves, without fear of being met with public scorn.
Perhaps Israel’s expansionist agenda can be neutralized only by implementing serious BDS actions. But that won’t happen unless relentless pressure is put on all institutional levels, by all concerned.
mary:
April 3rd, 2010 at 1:22 am
Martina, you are not answering my question. Where is the Palestinian input in this? You would hand over their fate to J Street and the Zionists to decide without them? Excuse me, but this is nonsense. I wish you could simply answer my question and clarify. Thanks.
Vera Gottlieb:
April 10th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
The day that Israel will accept a ‘two state solution’, hell will freeze over.
TheAZCowBoy:
April 13th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Let us pray for a well place 6oz of ‘frontier justice’ for Messer Natantayahu. It was Rabbi Meir Kahane who made it fashionable to shoot rabid Jewish dogs on the streets of NYC. Let us hope the young enterprising Egyptain man that killed Kahane, might have a cousin still living close by.
TheAZCowBoy
Tombstone, AZ.