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Yes indeed, show us all the map!

  • October 16, 2010
  • Comments: 2

Better late than never, a very senior Palestinian official in Ramallah, Yasser Abed Rabbo, found the right way to challenge Israel and the U.S. As reported by AFP on 13 October, he said, “We officially demand that the US administration and the Israeli government provide a map of the borders of the state of Israel which they want us to recognise.”

That’s a completely logical and totally reasonable demand.

IF Israel was interested in peace on terms virtually all Palestinians and most other Arabs and Muslims everywhere could accept, the map provided would show Israel with borders as they were on the eve of the 1967 war. An accompanying note would say that, subject to agreement in final negotiations, Israel seeks minor border adjustments here and there. The note would also propose that Jerusalem should be an open, undivided city and the capital of two states.

If such a map with the note as above was presented, it would open the door to peace.

But the implementation of such land-for-peace deal would require the IDF to confront and forcibly remove illegal Jewish settlers who refused to leave; and that would open the door to a Jewish civil war – the price Israel’s Jews would have to pay for 62 years of contempt for and defiance of international law.

Of course it won’t happen. As I reveal in my book Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, why not was explained to me as far back as I980 by Shimon Peres. At the time he was the leader of the Labour Party, the main opposition to Prime Minister Menachem Begin’s Likud-led coalition. Peres was hoping to win Israel’s next election and deny Begin a second term in office. (President Carter was hoping and possibly praying for such an outcome). My purpose in talking with Peres in private was to establish whether or not he was interested in me acting as the linkman in a secret, exploratory dialogue between himself and PLO Chairman Arafat. Peres was interested but before I went off to Beirut to seek Arafat’s agreement to participate in a little conspiracy for peace, he said to me, “I fear it’s already too late“.

I asked Peres what he meant and this was his answer:

“Every day that passes sees new bricks on new settlements. Begin knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s stuffing the West Bank with settlers to create the conditions for a Jewish civil war. He knows that no Israeli prime minister is going down in history as the one who gave the order to the Jewish army to shoot Jews out of the West Bank“. Pause. “I’m not.”

When Peres spoke those words to me there were 70,000 illegal Jewish settlers on the occupied West Bank. If it was “too late” then, in 1980, how much more too late is it today when the number of illegal Jewish settlers is in excess of 500,000 and rising on a daily basis?

Some weeks after that conversation with Peres, I had reason to talk in private with Ezer Weizman, then serving as Defense Minister in Begin’s first-term government. He gave me extraordinary and frightening insight into why any future Israeli prime minister would not and possibly could not order the IDF to remove settlers from the West Bank by whatever force was necessary. At a point in our conversation he said the following, very slowly and with quiet emphasis:

“This lunchtime Sharon convened a secret meeting of some of our generals and other top military and security people. They signed in blood an oath which commits them to join with the settlers and fight to the death to prevent any government of Israel withdrawing from the West Bank.” Pause. “I know that’s what happened at the meeting because I’ve checked it out and that’s why I was late for this appointment with you.” (I tell the full story of this conversation with Weizman in The Blood Oath, Chapter 12 of Volume Three of the American edition of Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews).

So no, there won’t be a Jewish civil war because no Israeli prime minister is ever going to risk provoking it.

So there will be no map. (I mean not one that could come even close to satisfying the Palestinian demand and need). Yasser Abed Rabbo knew that when he put the demand into words.

So what was the point of his challenge?

I presume he was hoping that Israel’s refusal to come up with a map based on more or less pre-June 1967 borders will help to convince more and more people, Americans especially, that Israel simply is not interested in peace on terms virtually all Palestinians and most other Arabs and Muslims everywhere could accept, and for which there is universal support (minus only the opposition of the Zionists and the mad, fundamentalist Christians who support them right or wrong, an opposition which in numbers of people is only a tiny, almost invisible fraction of the global whole).

If it does that, the challenge will not have been made in vain.

Footnote

The day after Yasser Abed Rabbo issued the challenge, Israeli foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman had the gall (chutzpah) to say that Israel “has already made many gestures to the Palestinian Authority to facilitate restarting direct negotiations,” and now “the other side must show goodwill”. In one sense Liberman was right. Israel has made many gestures to the Palestinians. But all of them have been of the “Go to hell” type.

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2 Responses

    • Comment #1
    • October 18, 2010
    • 12:25
    Dr Fakhri Azzam said...

    Dear Alan,

    Yasser Abd Rabbu's asking the US and Israel to show up with a map

    of the Israel these two parties want is a desperate man's craving for

    talks-any kind of damned talks- with Netenyahu and co.Desperate because

    he knows that he and his talking team have no legitimacy whatsoever to

    continue these negotiations.They have not only discredited themselves

    by shedding their exhortations cheap-exhortations that they won't go

    back to the negotiations unless there was a complete end to colony-

    building; and yet we see Abbas unashamedly begging Netanyahu from

    the Elysee' to extend the partial moratorium on colony-building for

    another 3 or 4 months more.They knew all along that Israel continued

    building both in Jerusalem and the W.B.during the expired doubtful

    stoppage.I fear others will think all Palestinians are as inept as the

    Ramalla clique.

    What Abd Rabbu is worried about is that it is their last chance to

    grab some crumbs-to use your famousc liche'- from Zionism's table.

    He and his team have been talking to the Zionists for 18 years now.

    Weren't they intuitive in the least to know that the Zionists have

    all of the West Bank in their map of the real Israel? What about

    the good all times they were talking with the Israelis by the pool-

    side at Sharm al Sheikh and elsewhere? Or they were then busy signing

    deals for the new mobile tele. frequencies and other perks and were

    blind to the stupendous number of colonies and of settlers from the

    ex-Soviet states flooding the country?

    Instead of impressing the Americans with this request, he should

    be confronting them for unashamedly offering the Israelis a big haul

    of new deadly fighter planes,endorsing Israel's continued presence in

    the Jordan Valley, and a veto of immunity in the UN security council.

    And all that for a mere 60 days of lapsed partial stop to colony-

    building.And all that for what? For Obama to avoid the embarrasment

    of failure of his only external policy push before gloomy mid-term

    elections.

    Didn't the very Abd Rabbu even degrade himself by offering to

    recognise Israel as a Jewish state with all that entails? In fact

    he is no sranger to controversy: he is the co-author of the Geneva

    Initiative, and he went all the way a few years ago to sell it

    to the Europeans.But he cared two boots about the six million

    Palestinians whose rights that initiative throws away in thin

    air, those whose great majority live in pathetic conditions

    in their refugee camps.And, as long as the IDF allows him to

    stay in his handsome villa in Ramallah, and as long as he draws

    a handsome salary from European tax-payers money and he can

    shop his ties from YSL, it won't bother him throwing a few more

    concessions here and there.And make no mistake, that applies to

    all his entourage.

    But to their dismay and to that of the Obama team who- as sponsors

    of the negotiations without reservations have also endorsed Israel

    as a Jewish state-Netanyahu snubbed the Americans and spurned the

    sweeteners.Colony-building takes preference over any other thing.

    Building in Judea and Samaria(West Bank to Israelis) is the platform

    on which Netanyahu's coalition policy was made.As long as the US

    unresevedly, and unashamedly, supports this aggression, why should

    he heed what the likes of Abd Rabbu have left to say?

    Netenyhu, as the leader of an elected majority, and true to the

    Zionist he is, said that even if he reaches some sort of understand-

    ing with the Palestinians, he would still put it to the people of

    Israel in a referundum. Can Abd Rabbu, or Abbas,or what they are

    projecting as a PLO, put themselves or their negotiations down the

    line to the Palestinian people for a referundum? If not, and they

    will not, then only one honourable solution is left for them:

    stop playing with the sacred rights of the Palestinians, and leave

    the floor for a truly-representative generation.

    • Comment #2
    • October 19, 2010
    • 21:28
    rosemary spiota said...

    thanks Alan and also Fahkri Azzam. I have also just read Jonathan Cook's latest posts on IDF getting overburdened with "settler" officers in combat units, as well as settlers being invited to join the police. Both these developments of course harden the attacks and humiliation towards Palestinians, since hatred is encouraged in these individuals by extremist rabbis. Then I read a long interview in Palestine Think Tank with the Hamas leader Khalid Meschaal, clearly setting out the official attitude and reasons for their refusal to enter negotiations.

    It is easy to see which side is intransigent.

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